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Processors with best steering logic for HT
Here is what I would like to read about here on AA.
I'm really not sure if this is the correct place for this question. But had to pick a spot and this is where I ended up. I have been reading about the Integra DHC-80.3 surround processor. I now have the Integra Research RDC7 processor. The real reason I have been checking into this new processor is this; the new audio formats that have come out since mine was new, especially the 7.1 surround. So let me see if I can word this to where my question makes sense to you guys. I'm wanting to know which processors have the best ability to steer the sound to each individual speaker in a HT system. Like a 7.1 or in my case mine would be I suppose a 7.4 as I have 4-Subs. I'm wondering if all of them are actually very close to one another as far as sending the information to each speaker. I do know that the source one is listening to and watching has to contain the 7.1 in the 1st place. What comes to my mind is a BD with the audio that has the 5.1 or 7.1 encoded on it. Then the processor has to have the ability to decode that information. That is why I am reading about the New Integra 80.3 processor. I may be doing a very poor job of explaining what I am wanting to know here. But hopefully some of you that are really into this sort of thing know what I am asking. If any of you in (Simple) words could add some insight into this subject I certainly would like reading what you have to say. I really like movies that have things going on with all the speakers in the system. I am thinking this Integra would do what I am thinking but would as I said like to read what you all have to say. I'm much more into the HT thing than many of you here that are into 2-channel audio listening. So I hope I have this Thread in the right area here on AA. If one does not know something I am of the opinion, ask others for their input. I also would like to see if I am thinking right about this, the only way to actually get the full effect of surround information is on BD. Streaming from Dish will not have all the audio information as I understand it. Also what if you are watching an HD movie on Dish from HBO, etc. Does it contain all the audio information for the surround to work correctly? Terry
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Hi Terry,
I think you can't beat Denon when it comes to HT surround processing. Most Denon processors can be upgraded via over the web firmware update. Just look at all the logos on the front of this processor. I have the same JMLab speakers.
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I did see that you have the same Mezzo Utopia front speakers as me. I also have the JM Lab Utopia speakers for all the rest in my HT system. Front, Center, Right, Sides & Rears. They work great I think. I'm a movie watching fellow. All kinds of movies from old to new. Sci-Fi I really like for the special effects. I have also read about the Denon and they are an out standing product. I'm going to make a change in the near future but I will do my research before making that decision. The one thing I never see in write-ups is the coverage of the Steering ability of the processors in reviews. They go on and on and on and on about everything but that. Seems to me that would be one of the things a HT person would wish to read about. Makes me think that they all are about the same in regards to that. Thanks for the Post and the Denon picture gives me something to consider. Integra use to have what was called Integra Research which was their high-end gear. That has long since went to the way side. Terry
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Up-Dated, January 19th 2024 Mitsubishi New 16-Seer, 24,000 BTU Split-Unit ... for Heating/Cooling & Humidity control of Home Theater Marantz Pre-Amp Processor: ... AV8805 Panasonic DP-UB9000 New ... HDR 4K UHD Blu-ray Player: Roku: New ... 2022 Ultra HD-4K-HDR-Atmos Streaming Player JVC RS4100 New ... Laser Projector Lumagen Radiance Pro New ... 4242 18G Ultra HD Video Processor Stewart Filmscreen: New ... Stewart StudioTek 130 G4 123" 16x9 W/4-Way Remote Masking JML Speakers ... 2-JM Lab Utopia Mezzo Front, 2-Side Utopia, 2-Rear Mini Utopia Focal Sopra ... Center Channel Triad Atmos New ... 6 Triad Custom Repeat Gold 8 Mini Monitor Plus in-ceiling speakers W/Matching Flat Black Grills SVS PB16-Ultra Subwoofers New ... 4 PB-16 ULTRA Subs Transparent Speaker Cables ... Transparent TW Plus HP 10-2 W/Plus Bricks Classe' Amps ... 2-CA201, 1-CAM-350, 2-CA-M400 ATI AT526NC New ... ATI AT526NC 6 Channel Amp for 6 Triad Atmos in-ceiling speakers A/C Power New ... All Separate 20-Amp Circuits W/Dedicated Hospital Grade Receptacles Richard Gray Power Conditioners New ...1- RGPC-1200S, 9-RGPC-400S Panamax MB1500 ... 2023 New 1500VA UPS Battery Backup for JVC RS4100 laser projector Eaton ... Ultimate Home Surge Protection CRITEC TDX100M New ... Modular Series Home Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor HT Components/Gear Cooling ... 3-sets of Z-Fans, Cool-Stack I, Suncourt Variable Speed Thru Wall Fan ATM ... Active Thermal Management Cool Stack 1 Exhaust Fan Assembly Home Theater Component Mid Atlantic Rack ... Slide-Out 50" Track Sanus CFR1620 ... Modular open-frame component rack with Middle Atlantic 4-Post H/D Shelves Room Acoustic ... Acoustic Innovations panels Seating ... Ekornes Stressless Wave Rosco Velour Black 6003 ... 2-coats of Black primer. Then 2-coats of Full-Strength Rosco #6003 UN-Diluted to complete Dedicated Home Theater Area Shag Rug New ... Liliah Deep Black Low-Shag by Andover Mills 12' x 15' Rectangle Area-Rug Custom Calibrated H/T New ... Chad Billheimer on September 4th 2023 did my JVC RS4100. The results were 100% Totally Awesome I Highly recommend his services. https://www.hdtvbychadb.com/home-1.html
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What do you mean by "steering"?
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That might not be the correct term.
I am referring to the processor sending information to each of the 7-channels. Or it could be 5 channels according to what is being listened to. Let me say it like this. You have 7-speakers plus in my case 4-subs. The subs really don't have anything to do with the question. I am wondering if some processors are better at sending/steering the information to each speaker better than others? Example, A BD that has the 7.1 sound encoded on it. The processor decodes that information, then sends that info. to each individual speaker. Do some processors do it a lot better than others? I have noticed you never really see this discussed on Reviews about the processors. So I am thinking they must all be about the same in regards to that function. Terry
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Up-Dated, January 19th 2024 Mitsubishi New 16-Seer, 24,000 BTU Split-Unit ... for Heating/Cooling & Humidity control of Home Theater Marantz Pre-Amp Processor: ... AV8805 Panasonic DP-UB9000 New ... HDR 4K UHD Blu-ray Player: Roku: New ... 2022 Ultra HD-4K-HDR-Atmos Streaming Player JVC RS4100 New ... Laser Projector Lumagen Radiance Pro New ... 4242 18G Ultra HD Video Processor Stewart Filmscreen: New ... Stewart StudioTek 130 G4 123" 16x9 W/4-Way Remote Masking JML Speakers ... 2-JM Lab Utopia Mezzo Front, 2-Side Utopia, 2-Rear Mini Utopia Focal Sopra ... Center Channel Triad Atmos New ... 6 Triad Custom Repeat Gold 8 Mini Monitor Plus in-ceiling speakers W/Matching Flat Black Grills SVS PB16-Ultra Subwoofers New ... 4 PB-16 ULTRA Subs Transparent Speaker Cables ... Transparent TW Plus HP 10-2 W/Plus Bricks Classe' Amps ... 2-CA201, 1-CAM-350, 2-CA-M400 ATI AT526NC New ... ATI AT526NC 6 Channel Amp for 6 Triad Atmos in-ceiling speakers A/C Power New ... All Separate 20-Amp Circuits W/Dedicated Hospital Grade Receptacles Richard Gray Power Conditioners New ...1- RGPC-1200S, 9-RGPC-400S Panamax MB1500 ... 2023 New 1500VA UPS Battery Backup for JVC RS4100 laser projector Eaton ... Ultimate Home Surge Protection CRITEC TDX100M New ... Modular Series Home Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor HT Components/Gear Cooling ... 3-sets of Z-Fans, Cool-Stack I, Suncourt Variable Speed Thru Wall Fan ATM ... Active Thermal Management Cool Stack 1 Exhaust Fan Assembly Home Theater Component Mid Atlantic Rack ... Slide-Out 50" Track Sanus CFR1620 ... Modular open-frame component rack with Middle Atlantic 4-Post H/D Shelves Room Acoustic ... Acoustic Innovations panels Seating ... Ekornes Stressless Wave Rosco Velour Black 6003 ... 2-coats of Black primer. Then 2-coats of Full-Strength Rosco #6003 UN-Diluted to complete Dedicated Home Theater Area Shag Rug New ... Liliah Deep Black Low-Shag by Andover Mills 12' x 15' Rectangle Area-Rug Custom Calibrated H/T New ... Chad Billheimer on September 4th 2023 did my JVC RS4100. The results were 100% Totally Awesome I Highly recommend his services. https://www.hdtvbychadb.com/home-1.html
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Maybe do some procesors decode and have better channel seperation?
You may want to look at the Krell 1200 on the used market . Ivan and LuJr are really impressed with the one JR. got for Christmas
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Krell S-1200.... Man is it great!!!
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+1 we just upgraded to the S-1200u for the 1080p up-scaling.
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"U" model here too but I also use the Lumagen. Very happy with the results but overall the S1200U did an outstanding job by itself with video as well. It was very important for me that the PRE/PRO gets out the way for 2 channel. The S1200 does just that with Class A preamp stage that has no op-amps.
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