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Old 08-19-2009, 07:21 PM
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Jérôme.......I wasn't trying to be tough on Greg. We are friends. I just wanted to make my point.

Years ago I went through the Xerox Professional Sales Training Program. An important lesson taught as part of the program, you never discredit another product in an attempt to bolster yours. Your product, whether it be a copy machine or a turntable, must stand on its own merits. We were taught that disparaging a competitor's product reduces your own credibility. I have never forgotten that lesson. It is sage advice, and can be applied in so many other areas of life.

I am guilty of doing the same thing sometimes while excitedly trying to make a point. No one is perfect, but I try to remain aware of the consequences of my actions. My basic philosophy is, if my action does not create a positive reaction, then I might want to reconsider my action. I try to keep it simple, and maintain a low stress level. Humor is a great tool, as well. Laughter is universal, and really is the best medicine.
Very well said Dan ! as always...
I agree with everything you stated in your reply to Greg. You haven't been rude, just very honest. I knew anyway you would react to Greg's post because I know you're not a LP12 fan !
You're so right when you ay that one should not discredit an other product / competitor etc...
I made that mistake when I was younger, and I paid the price for it !

To come back to the TT and EB1i, I just listened again to Gary Peacok "tales of another " record. Both sides. The Double bass is really awesome. I think my EB1i are now expressing their full potential now. I never heard Peacok's bass so deep, rich and tight. It is clear as crystal and this is something very rare for bass. You would sware the instrument is in the room. The Cymbals are also amazing and K. Jarrett's piano is just perfectly toned. I will never say Thanks enough to you for having me discovering these truly wonderful speakers ( And to Mike Sastra at AC). When I hear that and take so much pleasure, I tend to think I don't need more panels.... The dealer who set up the TT did not find any problem with the acoustics of the room. When I speak loudly and tap in my hands, I hear so many vibrations though.
The point is that everything is OK with the volume up to 40 / 45.
After that you really hear the resonances in the way that you experience some fatigue.
I can't wait to try this Lyngdorf RP1 as I'm not sure I will be able to try a MEN 220 at home.... : maybe this kind of separate could be a good improvement to the sound in my room.

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Old 08-19-2009, 08:56 PM
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What's the best country in the world-Linn

What's the best car to own-Linn

What's the best meal to serve-Linn

What's the best tv made-Linn

What's the best best-Linn

I detect a pattern here, and for the record, Linn sucks.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:58 AM
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No doubt, there are plenty of folks who think spinning vinyl is the path to audio bliss. Thankfully, vinyl jockeys have a host of talanted, highly skilled engineers and craftsmen worldwide that are diligently working to advance the state of the art in turntables to satisfy your desires. I found a list of the world's 10 most expensive turntables, as revealed at BornRich.org.



10. TEAC’s VPI HR-X1 turntable. Price: $19,000




9. ClearAudio Master Reference. Price: US $19,000




8. Proscenium Black Diamond Turntable. Price: US $40,000




7. SME 30 Turntable. Price: US $40,000




6. DaVinciAudio Labs AAS Gabriel. Price: US $41,250




5. Continuum Caliburn. Price: $90,000 to $112,000




4. Clearaudio Statement. Price: US $125,000




3. Transrotor Artus. Price: US $150,000




2. Basis Audio’s ‘Work of Art’ turntable. Price: US $150,000




1. Goldmund’s Reference II. Price: US $300,000



According to BornRich.org, there are only 25 Goldmund Reference II turntables on the planet. They say limited editions of 25 units are sold on subscription with a maximum production of 5 units per year. If you want a new Goldmund Reference II, and can pony up the $300K, there will be a minimum of a one year wait, providing there are no others in line ahead of you.

Gosh, I don't remember seeing a Linn LP-12. Hmmm.
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VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A

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Old 08-20-2009, 01:04 AM
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All that, just to spin vinyl!! :screwy:

Myself, I still wouldn't mind having an Oracle Delphi Mark V.

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Old 08-20-2009, 06:46 PM
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Pete.......Yeah, the grand sum $ total of my 150 or so albums would not even buy a high-end cartridge, much less a nice turntable.

I am still impressed with the Thorens TD 550.

6moons audio did a nice review: http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/thorens2/550.html



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LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113
VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A

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High end turntables certainly are a piece of art . I like to look at the intricate designs. Maybe someday. I just paid tuition to Vanderbilt University today .
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:00 PM
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I just paid tuition to Vanderbilt University today .
Ouch!

A great university. Beautiful campus.
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LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113
VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A
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High end turntables certainly are a piece of art . I like to look at the intricate designs. Maybe someday. I just paid tuition to Vanderbilt University today .
Here is to your wallet's recovery! Hope it feels better real soon.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:59 PM
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So Serge,

What are going to put in your home theater ? Are you going to integrate your current speakers and amps or are you going to have a separate 2 channel room and start from scratch in the home theater ? Would you consider using Mcintosh in the home theater ? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:39 PM
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What's the best country in the world-Linn

What's the best car to own-Linn

What's the best meal to serve-Linn

What's the best tv made-Linn

What's the best best-Linn

I detect a pattern here, and for the record, Linn sucks.
When your motto is as stupid as "The only sound", that's no wonder if you find some people to believe it...
Linn makes some great products and some great recordings. They have also some overrated ones ( like all the companies ? ), or at least products they consider to be the best, and that are easily outperformed by other brands.
But of course, they are not the only sound.
BTW, what do you mean by " for the record, Linn sucks " ?
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