Zitrons - a warning on the way of the burn

[GaryProtein]

I have lurked in this thread for a while. Bear with my being pedantic for a moment.

Originally Posted by tima

Maybe, but doesn't the signal move much faster than the electrons?

NO, it doesn't.

Originally Posted by 10Beers

The electrons don't go anywhere. They merely provide a path for the signal to follow.

WRONG!. Signal transmission (current flow) is specifically defined by the (countable) number of electrons moving. One ampere is one coulomb per second = 6.24150965X10E18 electrons per second.

Originally Posted by tima

Right - but they do hop n bob around, though the signal travels faster. From a large enough perspective I suppose nothing goes anywhere.

WRONG again, see above.

Please see your Halliday and Resnick.

[tsv_1]

Originally Posted by GaryProtein

I have lurked in this thread for a while. Bear with my being pedantic for a moment.


NO, it doesn't.



WRONG!. Signal transmission (current flow) is specifically defined by the (countable) number of electrons moving. One ampere is one coulomb per second = 6.24150965X10E18 electrons per second.



WRONG again, see above.

Please see your Halliday and Resnick.

My guess is that Tima and 10Beers are referring to electron drift velocity - that said, I agree that our current theoretical model of electricity dictates that electrons do in fact physically move - though in conditions other than superconductivity, their individual trajectory is anything but uniform.

Lurker II

[GaryProtein]

Originally Posted by tsv_1

I agree that our current theoretical model of electricity dictates that electrons do in fact physically move - though in conditions other than superconductivity, their individual trajectory is anything but uniform.

Lurker II

That is correct, but there is nonetheless, a mean (average) directional movement of the "sea" of electrons.

[tsv_1]

Originally Posted by GaryProtein

That is correct, but there is nonetheless, a mean (average) directional movement of the "sea" of electrons.

True for DC current... however, the net movement for AC is actually zero.

[GaryProtein]

Originally Posted by tsv_1

True for DC current... however, the net movement for AC is actually zero.

Yes, but there is net movement during each cycle of AC.

[tsv_1]

Originally Posted by GaryProtein

Yes, but there is net movement during each cycle of AC.

indeed... proportional to the frequency

[GaryProtein]

Originally Posted by tsv_1

indeed... proportional to the frequency

I'll let you have the last word for now so you can be the bigger nerd!!!!!!!!!

[bzr]

Wheres my foil hat mutter mutter......

[ehoove]

Originally Posted by bzr

Come on guys, don't turn this into another mumbo jumbo foil hat thread. We all do not listen to the same transistor do we, even though they are made of the same material. We are all made of the same material but look, smell, sound & perform differently too. Scientists insisted the world was flat, *explorers* didn't "fall off" so that theory was kind of ........
On the whole Graham I asked around of some people that are quite knowledgeable in the music industry in fabrication sales etc., about the sound characteristics you speak of & they have experienced the same phenomenon.

Well Stated, Thank you.
Regards,
Jim

[Vhiner]

Originally Posted by audiot servant

800 hours in and enjoying the zitron pc more and thinking about it less... just a sensational value genuine whole of system upgrade in a cable ... completely unreservedly recommended.

Graham,

I've had my Anaconda Zitron PC hooked up to my amp for about 19 days..10 hours a day of music playback. It's been a roller coaster so far....similar to what I have experienced with the Zitron IC's, SC's and digital interconnect. I was told the break in for the PC would be shorter but no such luck. At about 120 hours, I thought break in was over then it just tanked, got real harsh, highs were unpleasantly accentuated and now it's very, very forward, 2 dimensional and lacks mid range bloom....the same schizophrenia I've heard with all the rest of the Zitron line. So, would you mind descibing what you heard from 120 to 500 hours?

Vance