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All this talk of speaker break in (and being about 30 hours into my new 803D3s) got me thinking.
If speaker break in is actually a useful thing, why doesn't it happen at the factory? These are premium products and relatively low volume. One would think the factory would want to send out product that show their best right out of the box. |
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Consider the can of worms opened. First thoughts that pop into my mind:
You are assuming that speaker breakin is a real thing. If it is, it would be costly and time consuming for the factory to do it, and would affect their pricing/competitiveness. It is a convenient ploy to make you believe that the sound will continue to improve, hopefully beyond the dealer's return policy period. Incredibly subjective. Can you measure it? Can you really hear it? Have your 803s "changed" in their first 30 hours? |
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#34
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The obvious tweeter solution is: buy an electrostatic
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My wife made a good point today - For the money involved I could get a great pair of headphones and go on vacation for a month - Yin & Yang |
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Well HiFi News gave it a 90 in their December issue which is the highest score I have seen them give and the reviewer says he hasn't heard anything better over $45k. Also loves the "silkier treble".
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Troll? Sent from my iPhone using A.Aficionado |
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I guess I've been fortunate in all my experiences of B&W diamond series speakers in room and equipment pairing because I've never come away from any store feeling the tweeters were bright. I've never heard the Revels or Wilson's to compare but have compared to Focal 1028's and 1038's along with Alto Utopia's.
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Before I embark on an upgrade path for my 800 diamonds I'm going to try going active or hybrid, with separate amps for each driver. DSP is also a possibility - for time alignment. I've also designed (but not yet built) a new passive MT crossover which will be housed externally from the speakers. So interesting times ahead. |
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