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Ok, one more question.

Those that have added the P10 (or I suppose P5) to the chain, how much improvement did you hear in sound.

For example, when I added the C2300 to my system, I'd say things sounded at least 15-20% better.

When I demoed the MEN220, there was an obvious 20% improvement in sound.

Is the P10 added to the chain more subtle in terms of sound quality improvement? Or is is pretty dramatic?

What did you hear? What should I expect?
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Adding clean power results in significant improvements, but not as dramatic as a quality stand that appropriately manages vibrations. Or stillpoints.
Going from P5 to P10 on my amplifiers was more subtle than going from nothing to P5. However, I am still using one P5 for the non-amplifier components.
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Adding clean power results in significant improvements, but not as dramatic as a quality stand that appropriately manages vibrations. Or stillpoints.
Going from P5 to P10 on my amplifiers was more subtle than going from nothing to P5. However, I am still using one P5 for the non-amplifier components.
Thanks Tim.

If you had to put a % improvement number from when you went from nothing to the P5, what would you say? 3% better overall sound? 10%? etc.
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To all who have the P10, what kind of "burn-in" if any did you experience?

I took the plunge and bought a P10 and my initial impression wasn't that good.

I've been running it day and night hoping things will improve with burn-in.

It's hard to find a bad review of the P10, so I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel just yet.

Thoughts?
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My view is that it provides clean power and a measure of protection to my equipment. While I can't say I heard any improvement in the sound and certainly no 'burn in' effect, I am pleased to know it's there doing what it does.

Do I need it? Probably not but then I wouldnt have the surge protection it provides. Expensive insurance perhaps.
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My view is that it provides clean power and a measure of protection to my equipment. While I can't say I heard any improvement in the sound and certainly no 'burn in' effect, I am pleased to know it's there doing what it does.

Do I need it? Probably not but then I wouldnt have the surge protection it provides. Expensive insurance perhaps.
Good feedback.

I'm considering keeping the P10 from an insurance standpoint, but I was really hoping to "hear" improvements as well.

The reviews seem to almost universally praise the improved sound. With many folks saying let it burn in for up to 300 hours to hear all the improvements.

I'm not sure if it is timing from burn in, or if I tried the Ayre "Irrational But Efficacious" CD, but i swear the bass has increased in my system 2x. I had to check a couple of times to make sure my subs were turned off.
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Also, you should take into account the various power sine wave options that the P5 and P10 are well known for. If you view the input
power and THD readings, you will notice that their are some improvements in the output of the measured power. As far as break in, I would believe that your other components may have more of an influence on sound than the P10, per se. If you have tube equipment I would say this is more so than solid state devices as the tubes burn in through the initial burn in, or return to an acceptable operation after a sustained storage period or non use.

My equipment has been in storage for 6 months, after firing up everything for the first time, it sounded terrible. After an hour or so, it sounded better. An A/B demo of a video demonstrates this. So, give it a chance and see what happens. Also, damping vibrations does play a large part in mitigating physical harmonic resonance, and the P10 reduces the electrical harmonic
distortion. The sum of the combined parts equals greater gains in sound playback and resolution than one particular solution alone.

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Also, you should take into account the various power sine wave options that the P5 and P10 are well known for. If you view the input
power and THD readings, you will notice that their are some improvements in the output of the measured power. As far as break in, I would believe that your other components may have more of an influence on sound than the P10, per se. If you have tube equipment I would say this is more so than solid state devices as the tubes burn in through the initial burn in, or return to an acceptable operation after a sustained storage period or non use.

My equipment has been in storage for 6 months, after firing up everything for the first time, it sounded terrible. After an hour or so, it sounded better. An A/B demo of a video demonstrates this. So, give it a chance and see what happens. Also, damping vibrations does play a large part in mitigating physical harmonic resonance, and the P10 reduces the electrical harmonic
distortion. The sum of the combined parts equals greater gains in sound playback and resolution than one particular solution alone.

Good luck.


I'd love to see your A/B test video if you could post it.
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