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Sorry for the bump, i'm in a similar dilemma with regards to separate preamp with pasthru and using the MX150/151 for movies or not. I use an MC202 for my mains and a bridged MC7106 for the center and surrounds(the 7106 bridged was running my mains previously and i really don't feel like i gained anything with the MC202. The 7106 bridged really is a nice amp and i love the different meters).
The MX150 sounds amazing with movies. The RoomPerfect made a big difference for movies. With music, it's a nice improvement when i switch in bypass and RoomPerfect back and forth, but nothing i couldn't live without. I still have an MX120 not in use as well. I use an external HDMI DAC with 8ch analog outs so no worry about 4k/HDR video and uncompressed audio extraction. So i'm at a place now where focusing funds the smartest way is my concern. -Keep the MX150 and continue experimenting with different DACs in order to get the right sound with the MX150 as my preamp? As we all know, the MX150 has no pure analog mode, so it converts A-D back to A. I currently own a Denafrips Ares II R2R DAC that i loved with the MX120. Very close to analog sound. With the MX150? I lose that and get more of a digital sound signature from the MX150. I also tried a ModWright Tube Modded Oppo and likewise, the MX150 really stamps it's own sound over any external DAC. Both those DACS still sounded very clean and good-but not quite the sound i'm looking for. The best i've heard so far is an Audio Note 0.1x DAC. It sounded the most analog with the MX150 not having much effect on it. AN prices jacked up about $600 and they're now in a price range i'm not sure i want to pay. So-sell the MX120 and the Denafrips to fund continued DAC experiments with the MX150 as my 2ch preamp? Sell the MX150-use the MX120 for surround and take a loss in home theater, but use the funds for a dedicated 2ch analog preamp for a jump in 2ch? Limited to McIntosh only? I've been very interested in Accuphase, but without trigger in/out and no passthru or HTBypass option, i'd be stuck with manual operation every time i switch to movie/tv watching? Last MX150 question- Does it have an active biamp crossover like the MEN220 does so i wouldn't need my speaker built in networks? I ask because i'm interested in experimenting with different drivers and crossover points, but too overwhelmed to go full active with electronic crossover and dsp. Thanks gents |
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Get a dedicated two channel preamp with passthru. Doing it manually is a pain. Run all your 2 channel sources through the new preamp. There are lots of great options at multiple price points from multiple manufacturers. Even the Parasound NewClassic 200 for $900 has passthru.
Keep the MX 150 for movies. Sell the MX 120.
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C4STR0... Welcome to AA!
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I suppose this isn't the place to ask, but with a non McIntosh preamp-let's say an Accuphase-they have an EXT. Pre IN or Main IN on all of their products. With a click of a button, and the EXT. PRE IN connected to the L/R outs of my MX150, i'd essentially turn the Accuphase into a power amp for the MX150 L/Rs with movie tracks, correct? Of Course, i'd still need to manually power on and manually click the button, unfortunately. There's still the MC202 that i'd like to swap out as well. Preferably with either an MC7200 or an Accuphase of any model. Thank you! |
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Looking for fresh thoughts on the MX-150
Sorry - I’m not familiar with how the Accuphase gear handles pre-out/main-in switching. I’m sure if you post in the Accuphase area you’ll get an answer.
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I would like to move the funds from the MX150 and the MC202 and purchase a Class A Accuphase power amp and continue to use the MX120 for Center and Surround L/R with the 7106 bridged to 3x 320wpc. Of course, the MX120 would probably do no different than the CX-260 on it's own. It would be mostly an aesthetic decision, 2 beautiful glass McIntosh flanking middle shelf with Accuphase champagne colored with their black glass and green lights and soft glowing colors at the center and middle bottom shelves. The colors! We'll see what happens. |
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And just as soon as i spend several thousand on the accuphase, the MX150 becomes a problem. Watch a movie last night. All was well. Powered off and went to bed. First power up today, for the first time, i got a:
* Updating RP1 * and when it gets to 100% * Updating RP2 * and when it gets to 90% Room Perfect SW Failed and Unit powers on and gives message: * speakerconf err * * 3 (comm) * After a while, the error message disappears and the McIntosh is usable with no audio. Room Perfect disabled. Error trying to access Room Perfect Set up. I've unplugged power several times for 15 min, reset MCU, factory reset. Installed latest firmware. No fix. Powering up continues same Updating RP1 sequence and ultimately fails and no audio. Anyone have this issue?? |
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Got in contact with support and i was adviced to get a new Compact Flash card, so hopefully parts will get back to me ASAP and get the order shipped out and i'll respond back with good or bad news - just so someone in the future has a similar issue.
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Just Seeing This
C4STR0..... I'll have to read up on all of the details, but do keep the thread posted on your trials and trib's. As some of us still live our lives with the older Mac gear, there's a great interest in new developments...ask me how I know.
Good luck with getting your system back up and operating properly
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