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Old 02-04-2015, 08:15 PM
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That does it. I am getting fur covered cables so they feel better. 😀
Awesome idea...
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:28 PM
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What I got from the original post is that Monster speaker cables are no better than coat hangers.
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Old 02-04-2015, 09:02 PM
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That is psuedo science; i.e. nonsense.
So is it psuedo when you taste what you smell?



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That does it. I am getting fur covered cables so they feel better. 😀
Im more of a masculine guy so leather would make me feel better.
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:20 PM
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What I got from the original post is that Monster speaker cables are no better than coat hangers.
There is only one scientific conclusion that can be drawn: Within the setting parameters, there was no significant difference detected by the auditioning group.

All other statements are false and can not be inferred from this data. Not to mention that the sample size was probably small and therefore the whole experiment has no value at all.

Of course this does not preclude from the possibility that Monster cables are, indeed, bollocks.
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:23 PM
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I could not resist posting this news bit from Engadget circa March 3rd 2008 at 8:03 pm. Many of you already know, I am unable to detect a difference using my AudioQuest cables and my under $50 HomeDepot speaker cable. I am whole heartedly tempted to try out the coat hangers [seriously] lol <grin>

"We've always believed that the perceived quality boost that comes from using high-end cables is really just a trick of the mind (read: justifying the ridiculous cost of premium cables to yourself) -- if you've dropped enough cash, you can probably hear anything you want. Still, our belief is one thing -- cold hard proof is another, and it looks like a group of 12 self-professed "audiophiles" recently couldn't tell the difference between Monster 1000 speaker cables and plain old coat hangers. Yeah, coat hangers. The group was A-Bing different cables, and unbeknownst to them, the engineer running the test swapped out a set of cables for coat hangers with soldered-on speaker connections. Not a single one was then able to tell the difference between the Monster Cable and the hangers, and all agreed that the hangers sounded excellent. No wonder Monster has to rig HD displays. Still, we bet people still fall for the hype -- oh hey, if you're looking for the ultimate in sound, we've got half a meter of oxygen-free, triple-wrapped double-insulated Sonically Shielded AmpliSized Egyptian Llama cable here that we'll part ways with for just a couple grand."

Article url: Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers
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So is it psuedo when you taste what you smell? Im more of a masculine guy so leather would make me feel better.
I still use monster cables with my Mcintosh. I am saving money because I can't hear a difference..
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[QUOTE=howiebrou;672774]There is only one scientific conclusion that can be drawn: Within the setting parameters, there was no significant difference detected by the auditioning group.

I am going to disagree here. There's not enough information in the article to draw any scientific conclusion. Who were the subjects? How was the test conducted? Was it double blind? Were the subjects aware that it was a "test?"

The article mentions it has "cold hard proof," but doesn't provide it. It's drivel.
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At some point we all get fleeced.


I should have had a V8
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Just read this and thought about all the cable talk and how it has changed over the years.

"Our motto with cables has always been "only poorly designed cables can be sonically distinguishable". One has to really go out of their way to design such a cable."

Used to be, everyone believed better cable made a difference... now fewer and fewer enthusiasts do.
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