AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Japanese Exotica
Reload this Page The Luxman CL-1000
Register FAQDonate Calendar Mark Forums Read

Japanese Exotica Kondo, Leben, Luxman, Zanden

Reply
Page 3 of 3 12 3
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 03-05-2020, 06:30 PM
Audiobrian Audiobrian is offline
Junior Member
  
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 1
Default Luxman CL-1000
Hello all...thank you for accepting me as a new member!

Just wondering: I’m told the USA version of the Luxman CL-1000 flagship has a ‘throw in’ solid state phono card. The Japanese and European versions are line stage only if my information is correct. The lower CL-38 variations has an excellent integrated tuned phono stage with individual step up transformers. Would a vinyl aficionado be better off with the lower model or is the solid state phono card with the flagship CL-1000 line stage preferable? Interesting contrast...thanks for your responses in advance.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-09-2020, 06:03 PM
Luxman38 Luxman38 is offline
Member
  
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 52
Thumbs up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Audiobrian View Post
Hello all...thank you for accepting me as a new member!

Just wondering: I’m told the USA version of the Luxman CL-1000 flagship has a ‘throw in’ solid state phono card. The Japanese and European versions are line stage only if my information is correct. The lower CL-38 variations has an excellent integrated tuned phono stage with individual step up transformers. Would a vinyl aficionado be better off with the lower model or is the solid state phono card with the flagship CL-1000 line stage preferable? Interesting contrast...thanks for your responses in advance.
The phono is equal to the $2250 E-250 phono. I would venture to guess if you were spending 20K on a preamp you'd want a top of the line phono. I have the CL38U-SE and the three tube phono is excellent. Very quite w/excellent channel separation. At it's current price it's quite a steal.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-14-2020, 07:04 AM
Luxman38 Luxman38 is offline
Member
  
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 52
Default
Art Dudley has a very nice review in this month's Sterophile on the CL-1000.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-27-2020, 10:02 PM
MusicLoverBkln MusicLoverBkln is offline
Junior Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 2
Default
Hi
I have a MQ 300 and a CL 38 u SE.
has someone had the chance to compare a CL 38 u with a CL 1000?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-29-2020, 10:36 AM
Billion$Baby's Avatar
Billion$Baby Billion$Baby is offline
Member

  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 74
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luxman38 View Post
Art Dudley has a very nice review in this month's Sterophile on the CL-1000.
Actually I found it somewhat "disturbing" that a 20K Pre-Amp isn't heads and tails above one you can get for 5-6K used (Monbrison)
__________________
Amps: First Watt SIT-3, Pass XA25, Valvet E2 SE, LTA Ultralinear, LTA ZOTL 40, ARC 150M, First Watt SIT-1 Mono's, ARC Ref75SE, Luxman M900U, Pass XA30.5, Decware Zen TorII MK4, Line Magnetic 845 Premium, Raven Reflection MK2

Pre-Amps: Luxman 900U, ARC MP-1 Multi-Channel, Conrad Johnson Met-1 Multi-Channel

Disc Spinners: Esoteric K-01XD, Ayre DX5, Oppo 105/205

Speakers: Joseph Audio Pearl 3, Volti RAZZ, Dynaudio Special 40, Falcon LS 3/5A, Klipsch Cornwall IV, Harbeth SHL5+, Omega Compact 8, Triangle Comete EZ, Monitor Audio Gold 200, JBL 590, Audio Solutions Figaro M, Harbeth C7 40th

Collector/Dealer of over 9000 Authentic RIAA Gold/Platinum Music Industry Record Awards 1960's-Present. 3600+ Photos of my awards on Facebook page: RIAA AWARD COLLECTORS
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-29-2020, 12:08 PM
Masterlu's Avatar
Masterlu Masterlu is online now
AA Founder, Legend AV Owner



  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South FL & Cape Cod MA
Posts: 73,884
Default
MusicLoverBkln... Welcome to AA!
__________________
Ivan
FLORIDA
MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A250 AMPS, C3850 PRE-AMP, DP950 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC950 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-58 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
CAPE COD
MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1/D1 STACK, G1 RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES
Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
Bryston Active System: BP26 PRE-AMP, MPS2 POWER SUPPLY, BAX-1 CROSSOVER, BDA-3 DAC, BDP-3 PLAYER, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15(2), MODEL T ACTIVE SPEAKERS, 21B3 CUBED AMPS, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TARGET RACK, WW SILVER CABLES
Vintage System: LUXMAN CL-38u SE PRE-AMP, JBL L300 SPEAKERS, BRYSTON BDA-3 DAC, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15, 3B3 CUBED AMP, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, WW SILVER CABLES

Shunyata Power/Digital cables, HRS Damping Plates, Stillpoints throughout all systems
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-30-2020, 08:15 AM
Formerly YB-2's Avatar
Formerly YB-2 Formerly YB-2 is offline
Retired

  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NJ Shore
Posts: 6,565
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billion$Baby View Post
Actually I found it somewhat "disturbing" that a 20K Pre-Amp isn't heads and tails above one you can get for 5-6K used (Monbrison)
As a good rule-of-thumb, unless one has something "tres chic" and in high demand, used prices are about 60% of new. So we are comparing a $13K used CL1000 with many bells & whistles to a minimalist Monbrison at half the price. At these levels, one has definitely entered the realm of 'diminishing returns'. You pick your poison. Plus, AD (may he RIP) was always a Shindo fan and I've never read a review from him where he stated he would be replacing either his Shindo preamp or amp with the piece being reviewed. No surprise there.

As Luxman38 states, the CL-38uSE is the 'sweet-spot' in Luxman preamps.
__________________
Glenn...
Canton Ref 9K Cary SLP-98P & Rocket 88 Clearaudio SM Pro Denon DP-80 w/AT33R, AT-MONO3/LP, Dynavector XX2 MKII, Lyra Kleos, Ortofon Cdza Blk, K-b & OM30 Dual 701 K&K LL9226 SUT Jelco HS-25 Nordost Valhalla Oppo 203 Orsonic AV-1b Sony ST-J75 & TA-F6B Stax UA-7/CF Stillpoints LP1 WW 8/7 Pt, Au & Ag Yamamoto HS-2 & 4 Zu Omen DW
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-30-2020, 02:47 PM
MusicLoverBkln MusicLoverBkln is offline
Junior Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 2
Default
I don’t think he ever said he prefered the Shindo in the review. He just compared them.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-25-2020, 10:36 AM
Sandor Sandor is offline
Junior Member
  
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 8
Default
Hi !
This is not so important but I notice that the actual gain of the phono stage, as measured by Hifi news, is VERY different than quoted by the manufacturer. It is not so difficult to announce correctly a gain so I am a bit puzzled... Aren't you ?
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 3 of 3 12 3

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 PM.

AudioAficionado.org - Archive - Top


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2021 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Accuphase
Accuphase