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Old 03-04-2020, 07:19 PM
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES
Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-04-2020, 03:02 PM
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Hello,

My first post on the forum.

Does anybody use Onkyo Reference Hi-Fi line for amplification, or have any experience usingthose?
My current setup is Onkyo P-3000R preamp & M-5000R amp & B&W CM9 & 2x ASW 10CM subs. Love the sound. I am thinking to upgrade CM9 with 804D3 /even waiting for D4/ but I want to keep my Onkyo. What do you think, would it be a enough power? I barely set the volume up to 25%.
Another option might be taking 2nd M-5000R and bi-amping. It would give 804D twice more juice but then I loose left/right outputs on pre-amp currently come to subwoofers...

I appreciate any adviceS and opinions.

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Mark
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Old 04-04-2020, 04:27 PM
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES
Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Resurrecting this thread.

Wondering if anyone has compared McIntosh amps (e.g., MC1.25KW) to Bryston 28B Cubed with the 800D3?

How would you compare them?

I've never heard MC amps.
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Old 08-22-2020, 03:27 AM
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Have used 800d3 with mc 1.25 and mc275 for high frequencies. Trying classe delta now. At lower price point Michi would also be good with huge power.
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:48 PM
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Have used 800d3 with mc 1.25 and mc275 for high frequencies. Trying classe delta now. At lower price point Michi would also be good with huge power.
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:50 PM
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Do you mean Michi=McIntosh?


Rotel new Michi line with pre, mono and stereo amps.
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My audiophile buddy, who happens to be a hifi audio reviewer had heard the Michi monoblock amps + stereo preamp on a pair of B&W 800 D3 and was highly impressed.
The Michi line is spectacular he said and do not represent typical Rotel. But the Michi gears are priced much much higher than Rotel products. The Michi amps are similarly priced as the McIntosh & recently discontinued Classe Delta series amps such as the CAM-600 monoblocks and the CA-2300 stereo amp.

He said the Michi monoblock amps sounded really good on the B&W 800 D3. I think the Michi monoblocks retail for around $14k or $15k for the pair and are bulilt like tanks.
Even the Michi stereo preamp has superb bulid quality and pairs really well with their matching monoblock amps. The stereo preamp alone weighs about 50 pounds.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:38 PM
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My audiophile buddy, who happens to be a hifi audio reviewer had heard the Michi monoblock amps + stereo preamp on a pair of B&W 800 D3 and was highly impressed.
The Michi line is spectacular he said and do not represent typical Rotel. But the Michi gears are priced much much higher than Rotel products. The Michi amps are similarly priced as the McIntosh & recently discontinued Classe Delta series amps such as the CAM-600 monoblocks and the CA-2300 stereo amp.

He said the Michi monoblock amps sounded really good on the B&W 800 D3. I think the Michi monoblocks retail for around $14k or $15k for the pair and are bulilt like tanks.
Even the Michi stereo preamp has superb bulid quality and pairs really well with their matching monoblock amps. The stereo preamp alone weighs about 50 pounds.


Mighty impressive but your buddy is wrong on the pricing. Relatively cheap for what u get. I will post retail prices in the next post
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:42 PM
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3.5k for the pre, 6k for the stereo and 6k for the mono. I guess the mono could be classified as expensive.

But u do get 500W for the stereo and 1080W for the mono @ 8 ohms which is crazy. If you compare these with the similar specs macs then they are cheap.

Realy looking forward to test them.
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