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Old 07-09-2017, 08:09 PM
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Charles.......Sounds like you should power cable everything with Transparent HPPC and be done with it.
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:14 AM
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Charles.......Sounds like you should power cable everything with Transparent HPPC and be done with it.
That is the conclusion I came to last night. Three things factored into it. One, the HPPC is a known quantity. Two, it's less expensive than either of the other options. Three, the Electra sagged and lost contact immediately after putting it on the SACD player; after three attempts to re-seat it, I put some photographer's tape around the IEC and it's holding so far. But I have a strong sense of continuity, and even if I test the sound and like it, I'll be at least a bit bothered by the visual discrepancy with the other source cords.

Side note: I don't plan to put an HPPC on my LD player for now, both because 1) it's an older, low-use source, and 2) the C7 PS Audio Jewel jacket is black braided nylon, as are the HPPCs, so there's no significant visual discrepancy. Furutech makes a C7 IEC that Transparent will fit onto an HPPC for a $70 upcharge, but if/when the LD player goes the cord would be useless; I don't know whether it's available as a stand-alone adapter. The adapters I have on hand (Pangea, VooDoo) sagged when tried with the WW cords; I had to prop the IEC up to maintain connection.
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:27 AM
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I thought this should be a separate post.

I still have WW Stratus cords on my Furmans, with a 20A IEC adapter on the SR-20i voltage regulator cord (3m); there is some play (which makes me a bit nervous), but the connection is stable. This cord connects to a 2m Shunyata extension which then plugs into the wall, while a 1m Stratus gets my Furman Elite-15PFi to the SR-20i. Maybe I'd think about changing those out at some point. The question is whether to go for a 3m cord for the VR to maintain current setup, or use my 25ft extension cord, allowing me to use a different (and shorter) cord of my choice with a 20A IEC, avoiding the extra expense of a custom length. I lean toward the latter, though I don't need the 25ft length and the company I got it from doesn't accept single-cord orders any more. Besides, a 3m cord with a 20A IEC would probably be useless in another environment. Perhaps Shunyatas would be good.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:21 PM
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Didn't bother to test the Electra on my SACD player, because two more HPPCs came today! I put one on the SACD and one on the tuner. The verdict? It's great!

I played the same two tunes as before, but the full CDs this time: Close to the Edge—Yes; and Copland: Appalacian Spring/Rodeo/Fanfare for the Common Man—Atlanta Symphony Orchestra. The top end was smoother w/o giving up any detail; in fact, the overall sound was that way. Brass still had the proper bite on Copland. The bottom was a bit stronger than before, and there was more detail; the big drums in Fanfare really kicked butt at times. And as for CTTE, I didn't know Siberian Khatru had an acoustic guitar in the mix until I heard it today. At one point Jon Anderson' s vocal jumped out of the mix and sounded more in the room. I even threw on some tracks from ELP's Trilogy, and was rewarded with more detail, especially on the synths, with the sizzle and decay of notes not heard in my previous setup. I could also pick up the bass in the mix a bit better. This is great! I have my sweet spot for power cords. I'm not planning to get another HPPC for the LD player still, and am exploring (casually) replacing the cord on the Furman VR with one having a 20A IEC.

But I'm pleased with the power cord setup, based on today's test. And since the 501s aren't power-hungry class A amps, the HPPCs on them are wholly appropriate; even Demos at Transparent thinks so.
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:45 AM
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Along with my 25ft extension cord, I bought a 10ft one not long ago. Both are 12 gauge. Now I wonder which extension to use.

A total of 5m gets my system to the wall plug. The 10ft cord would mean I'd need a 2m cord for the Furman VR. Shunyata PCs are shorter than that, and a custom length isn't worth it. The 25ft extension would mean I could use any PC at any length; the problem is the extra slack. In terms of electrical properties and current flow, would the extra length of the 25ft extension cord be a problem at all? I plan to do some research on this when I get a chance, but meantime if anyone more knowledgeable than I has input, it will be welcome.
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:22 PM
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The August Music Direct catalog came today, and lo and behold, there was a sale on Shunyata products. They had a 12ft Venom HC extension cord. I ordered it, the last one. Yes, this was a visceral, impulsive move. No, I don't know what cord I'll connect it with yet, only that it will need to be an inexpensive 1.5m with a 20A IEC, and 10AWG, preferably. What I do know that it will connect to my Furman SPR-20i. I'll also want to duplicate the cord on my Elite 15-PFi. Perhaps Kimber's PK10 Base?
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:16 PM
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The Venom HC extension cord (all 12 feet of it) arrived yesterday. It's a bit of a beast, to be sure. Now the challenging part.

I had thought to just get a regular 20A Venom HC to pair with the extension. Simple enough. But I then became aware of Shunyata's new NR and EF power cords. A question (answered graciously by Caelin Gabriel over in the Shunyata thread on those very cords) later, I have a bigger decision to make. I haven't noticed any noise in my system, so there would seem to be no reason to not stick with the Venom HC at $300 versus the Delta NR at $700. But reports are that the Delta NR is noticeably better, according to feedback Shunyata has received worldwide. That's appealing even though, again, noise doesn't appear to be an issue in my setup.

Other potential factors are that a friend of mine had her Worker's Comp check lost (by Worker's Comp), who weren't too keen to do anything about it initially. But she's challenging them on it and I've offered her help with rent if WC doesn't come through. Then, there's my sister who lives in Missouri City, TX, SW of Houston, who evacuated Monday; I tried calling twice since then and her cell isn't taking calls. Don't know what to make of that, but it's possible she'd need some help too. In addition, I usually visit her at Christmas; that could change depending upon how bad things are for her. So if I go by all that, the Venom makes more sense.

I don't want the Venom HC extension to sit here too long, as it's adding to my already crazy clutter while uninstalled. I will think about this, maybe wait to see what transpires with my friend and my sister.
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Then, there's my sister who lives in Missouri City, TX, SW of Houston, who evacuated Monday; I tried calling twice since then and her cell isn't taking calls. Don't know what to make of that, but it's possible she'd need some help too.
Congrats with the Shunyata --like all who have purchased their products. I became a power cord believer when I forked out a bunch of Benjamin's maybe 10 years ago when I purchased their King Cobra (V1) cable.

Only bought that -- everything up until then were stock cords. Had a few friends come over and we unopened the box, the cable was huge and had FESI material inside (spell??).

Hooked it to my Esoteric DV-50S and threw on a CD. Within 10-15 seconds we all looked at each other after we picked our jaws up off the floor. Believer right then and there. Bought more.

When I tell this story I add, IMO, that put Shunyata on the power cord map.

Regarding your sister -- have to remember she may have run out of battery power & no where convenient or with a short line to charge it up. Give it a few more days and let her get settled and stabilized in a safe area. It's pure organized chaos there -- everyone is dealing with freedom of movement where passable.

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Congrats with the Shunyata --like all who have purchased their products. I became a power cord believer when I forked out a bunch of Benjamin's maybe 10 years ago when I purchased their King Cobra (V1) cable.

Only bought that -- everything up until then were stock cords. Had a few friends come over and we unopened the box, the cable was huge and had FESI material inside (spell??).

Hooked it to my Esoteric DV-50S and threw on a CD. Within 10-15 seconds we all looked at each other after we picked our jaws up off the floor. Believer right then and there. Bought more.

When I tell this story I add, IMO, that put Shunyata on the power cord map.

Regarding your sister -- have to remember she may have run out of battery power & no where convenient or with a short line to charge it up. Give it a few more days and let her get settled and stabilized in a safe area. It's pure organized chaos there -- everyone is dealing with freedom of movement where passable.

Best Sir,

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I'm on the verge of obsessing over a relatively simple purchase. I'd prefer the look of the two Venoms connected (I'm about the visuals also). But the Delta NR IS a better cord, by all accounts. I'm just not sure I need what it does. But I think I'll be doing well with either cord sound-wise.

As for my sister, when I called Monday AM it was on the house phone. I tried her cell that evening and got the message about not taking calls. I think either she forgot to charge it, or set it to not take calls (I don't remember the precise language of the message). Perhaps if I don't hear from her by tomorrow PM I'll try her son, to whose place she said they'd (husband included) probably go. I left him a message Monday evening also, but got no return call as of now.
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Amazing what a dose of reality will do.

I'm about to pay my rent, gas, plus three Visa bills. Thus, I've been convinced that the Venom HC (20A IEC version) is the proper purchase. Yes, it's probably not as good as the Delta NR, but it's an upgrade over what I have on my Furman VR now. So I'm okay. Just ordered one from Masterlu.
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