20.7 owners?....UPDATE?

[GaryProtein]

Originally Posted by Rayooo

I'd forever just ran with the 1ohm recomended resistor, even spent $$ on a couple duelunds..wired up via maggy pins. And a couple Cardas Jumpers in the mid. One day for the heck of it, I cut a few short pieces of 10gauge copper (bare wire) romex and replaced it all...expecting the worst.... I'm embarrassed to say, as I'd actually forgotten about it until today..... the bare 10 gauge copper is still there and literally sounds better than the duelunds/maggy pins & jumpers! I promised myself today that I'd get some slightly more exotic jumpers for the 20.7s.

Originally Posted by Rayooo

heck I'd run the stock "coat-hanger" jumpers if it'd help delivery of the 20.7s.

Now that I heard that, I am ready to tell what I am using for speaker cables.

After using a number of speaker cables (but not the $40,000 ones I was more than once coerced into trying), I made my decision several years ago to go the heavyweight, colossal, anti-exotic route, and have not looked back even once.

I am using #4 AWG welding cable. 1634 strands hot / 1634 strands common, per cable. Very flexible and the most direct conduit from power amp output to speaker driver input. Nothing fancy to change or adulterate the sound.

[Rayooo]

Originally Posted by GaryProtein

Now that I heard that, I am ready to tell what I am using for speaker cables.

After using a number of speaker cables (but not the $40,000 ones I was more than once coerced into trying), I made my decision several years ago to go the heavyweight, colossal, anti-exotic route, and have not looked back even once.

I am using #4 AWG welding cable. 1634 strands hot / 1634 strands common, per cable. Very flexible and the most direct conduit from power amp output to speaker driver input. Nothing fancy to change or adulterate the sound.

this is fantastic! I had already planned to order a set of the Anti-Cables as recommended by Russell... 'might have to try a set of Gary's UHCC Cables. (as in Ultra High Current Capable Cables) 'gotta name these babies.

[mgard]

Graham,

What a great update. I read your post several times to make sure I didn't miss anything. Now let's see, if I sold my wife's car I could upgrade to those 20.7's huuummmm, better not go there.

~Mike

[audiot servant]

Mike,

thanks mate, and yes, at first appearances selling your wife's car to upgrade your speakers might seem a bit too just about you.

But look deeper... it would encourage her to walk more often and put her in touch with the local community, lower her carbon footprint and also get her healthier all at the same time

What greater gifts could you give her than enriched personal connections, clear social conscience and the lasting gift of good health. And yeah, no way, I wouldn't try it either...

PS I did weigh up the pros and cons of staying with the beautiful 3.7s and putting in some JL subs to augment the bass a bit as you have but got an opportunity at a trade that worked out well. Funnily I also thought about chasing that next level on the 3.7s through upgrades on the amp and pre-amp but glad I didn't go that way now.

The dealer who came for the set-up of the 20.7s is the Australian importer and probably has heard just about every combination of maggies and electronics you could think of. He has heard the 3.7s with well over $200k worth of Technical Brain amplification, DCS front end and a loom of reference Sensati cabling and while that set-up is mindblowingly good apparently the move to the bigger panels buys you something different again... wholeness with scale... wouldn't mind hearing the Technical Brains on the 20.7s tho

Graham

[mgard]

Graham,

You certainly have convinced me that the 20.7s are one of high end audios best buys if one has the room to let them shine.

~Mike

[Rayooo]

Thanks again Graham for your comments! very much appreciated.

Considering again how happy I am with the 3.7s, I'm continually encouraged to hear that there are no "down-sides" to the 20.7s in comparison to the 3.7s.

I'd been continually concerned that there would be some single aspect of the 20.7s that was not as good as the 3.7s. Other than size/weight of course.

still looking like "August"....

[russell]

Originally Posted by Rayooo

this is fantastic! I had already planned to order a set of the Anti-Cables as recommended by Russell... 'might have to try a set of Gary's UHCC Cables. (as in Ultra High Current Capable Cables) 'gotta name these babies.

To be clear, the main selling point of the Anti Cables is the minimal coating surrounding the pure copper. I've seen heavy gauge welding cable and it's normally encased in a much thicker plastic jacket rather than a thin red dieletric coating like the Anti Cables.

[klao]

Hi! Just wanna let you guys know that I met Mr. Ying Tan of ORG records (http://www.originalrecordingsgroup.com/) during dinner today. He's in transit in Bangkok from Singapore on the way to LA. Found out he's using the 3.7's in his own system, driven by VTL tube amps.

I couldn't wait for my 20.7's to be installed in the new house next year. So, while the big Maggies will be left at my dealer when they arrived at the end of this month, I'm getting the new 1.7's for my town house. They will be used as rear speakers later in the new room.

Cheers.

[Ian]

Klao Great, sounds like a good strategy.

[audiot servant]

Over the academic break I have been able to get plenty of hours up on the 20.7s to get them started to get settled in good and proper... probably have over 300hrs up now, and the whole time they have been always utterly musical and enjoyable even when things went a bit in and out of the zone for a while but the shocked expression is back on my face again, these speakers are silly dumb good... trying to write how good they are is getting even sillier... just amazing.

On the 3.7s I found that about the 300hrs mark signalled a start to some very real SQ gains that kept just coming and coming through for quite a few more hundred hours after that... all I can say to anyone waiting for these speakers that this is a very very sweet ride and you will not be disappointed...