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New M7 - Magico Listening Room
Nice short interview with Magico’s Alon Wolf on the new M7s. Absolutely stunning ! M9 tech for half the MSRP. Interesting to hear Alon’s take on subwoofers even for world class full range speakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtC7VMcJkVY
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Main System: Sf Amati Tradition, B&W DB1 sub, McIntosh C2300, MC501s, MA12000, MCD500, HiFi Rose RS150B, Oppo 105, Niagara 5000, AQ Tornado/Thunder/Blizzard PCs, Robin Hood BiWire (zero+bass), Gibraltar SCs, Water ICs, Cinnamon RJ/E, Solidsteel HF-3 racks. 2nd System: Sf Cremona Auditor M, McIntosh C50, MC275(VI), MA6600, Node 2i, Oppo 95, AQ NRG-4 PCs, Robin Hood Zero SC, Cobra/Nordost Heimdall ICs. |
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I run my Thor LP only, using the entirely analog Wilson ActivXO electronic crossover, independently of my XVX. This is the way Wilson configures its subs with its mains and I can vouch there is a very noticeable degradation in the sonics when the HP is employed, so that the signal to the XVX is run through the ActivXO. A built-in active digital electronic subwoofer crossover would be unsuitable for an XVX or Alexx V, IMO and unsuitable for an M7, but only a very few will ever be able to confirm my assertion. Best Charles
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__________________________________________ Charles Updated System: Wilson McIntosh Audioquest Amps: McIntosh MC3500MKII (2); McIntosh MC1.25KW (2); MC2.1KW An (1) Preamp: C-12000 An Sources: MCD12000 An; MVP881; MVP851; MR87; Marantz 510LV; ASUS laptop Speakers: Wilson Audio Specialties Chronosonic XVX Sub-woofer: Wilson Audio Specialties Thor’s Hammer (1); Wilson ActivXO Stereo Electronic Crossover Cables main system: Audioquest WEL Signature speaker cables; balanced IC (preamp to main amps); WEL Signature digital coaxial cable for MVP 881/MCD12000; Audioquest Diamond optical (1) for tuner, (1) for MVP 851 DVD player, and (1) for LD player for total of (3); Audioquest Diamond USB cable; Dragon power cords (5 HC cords and 3 source cords for total of 8); Thunder HC power cord for MR87 tuner Cables subwoofer system: Audioquest Redwood speaker cable (1); Wolf balanced subwoofer IC; Wind balanced IC from preamp to ActivXO; Hurricane HC (3); Hurricane Source (1); Dragon HC (1) power cords Power conditioners: Audioquest Niagara 7000 (1) and Niagara 5000 (3); (4) dedicated 20-amp lines. Isolation: Wilson Pedestals; Bassocontinuo McIntosh Ultra Feet; X-material plinth Cabinet: Double Custom Woodwork & Design (CWD) Acoustic Treatments: Room and Echo Tunes Last edited by Charles; 11-07-2023 at 07:10 PM. |
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I added up the total retail cost of my mono subwoofer system. It is 100% independent of my mains. It came to a staggering 78,325 dollars. I had no idea I had this much invested. This does not include the cost of an upgraded galaxy grey Thor from an older demo, which was one of the first Thor's manufactured. Subsonic's are considerably more expensive but I like my Thor much better and wouldn't remotely trade it for a Subsonic. Setting horizontally on a custom Wilson designed plinth consisting of X-material and setting on custom Wilson Acoustic Diodes specifically for the plinth, my new Thor has at least 3 dB more LF output capability, 6 dB better sensitivity (93 dB vs 87 dB), and similar construction of X-material as a Subsonic. You just can't beat its 15 inch dual spider woofers. It just doesn't look as good. A properly executed high end subwoofer system can be extremely expensive. What good is the subwoofer if it's electronics inevitably degrade the exquisite sonics of a speaker the quality of an M7?
Best Charles
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__________________________________________ Charles Updated System: Wilson McIntosh Audioquest Amps: McIntosh MC3500MKII (2); McIntosh MC1.25KW (2); MC2.1KW An (1) Preamp: C-12000 An Sources: MCD12000 An; MVP881; MVP851; MR87; Marantz 510LV; ASUS laptop Speakers: Wilson Audio Specialties Chronosonic XVX Sub-woofer: Wilson Audio Specialties Thor’s Hammer (1); Wilson ActivXO Stereo Electronic Crossover Cables main system: Audioquest WEL Signature speaker cables; balanced IC (preamp to main amps); WEL Signature digital coaxial cable for MVP 881/MCD12000; Audioquest Diamond optical (1) for tuner, (1) for MVP 851 DVD player, and (1) for LD player for total of (3); Audioquest Diamond USB cable; Dragon power cords (5 HC cords and 3 source cords for total of 8); Thunder HC power cord for MR87 tuner Cables subwoofer system: Audioquest Redwood speaker cable (1); Wolf balanced subwoofer IC; Wind balanced IC from preamp to ActivXO; Hurricane HC (3); Hurricane Source (1); Dragon HC (1) power cords Power conditioners: Audioquest Niagara 7000 (1) and Niagara 5000 (3); (4) dedicated 20-amp lines. Isolation: Wilson Pedestals; Bassocontinuo McIntosh Ultra Feet; X-material plinth Cabinet: Double Custom Woodwork & Design (CWD) Acoustic Treatments: Room and Echo Tunes Last edited by Charles; 11-09-2023 at 06:38 AM. |
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Charles, $78k for a mono Thor system is more than a pair of Magico Q18 subs. Ultimately, if you (and your ears) are happy, everything else is secondary. I have a limited understanding of how a subwoofer(s) can be properly integrated into a complex ultra end system.
I can’t imagine Alon injecting anything into the system that would degrade his shared design philosophy. I’d trust that he found the secret sauce especially at Magico’s home.
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Main System: Sf Amati Tradition, B&W DB1 sub, McIntosh C2300, MC501s, MA12000, MCD500, HiFi Rose RS150B, Oppo 105, Niagara 5000, AQ Tornado/Thunder/Blizzard PCs, Robin Hood BiWire (zero+bass), Gibraltar SCs, Water ICs, Cinnamon RJ/E, Solidsteel HF-3 racks. 2nd System: Sf Cremona Auditor M, McIntosh C50, MC275(VI), MA6600, Node 2i, Oppo 95, AQ NRG-4 PCs, Robin Hood Zero SC, Cobra/Nordost Heimdall ICs. |
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