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Old 03-26-2020, 02:17 PM
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Default Research papers indicate that SARS-CoV-2 may be a bioweapon

Before reading my post below, please read the link to the Marketwatch article here: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...more_headlines

I'll explain why I am writing this post, but before I do, let me just level set my professional background about what the information below.

I retired only two years ago, but I spent my entire career working in Biotech as a professional molecular biologist with a background in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics, developing molecular diagnostics and molecular genetics tests. I'm also one of the inventors of PCR, which is the basic technology that underpins all current COVID-19 diagnostic testing.

I'm reading some interesting papers I've found on Net about SARS-CoV-2:

One of them, entitled, "SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence" has some disturbing content. The reference for this publication is: Nat. Med. 2015 December; 21(12): 1508–1513.

This is as group of scientists working at Univ. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. UNC Chapel Hill is a known and documented site for bioweapons research.

The abstract of the paper begins...

"In this study, we examine the disease potential for SARS-like CoVs currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations."

This is where it starts to get strange:

"Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone."

Now...here's where it gets scary:

"The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild type backbone can efficiently utilize multiple ACE2 receptor orthologs, replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells, and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV."

So, gang...here's what I find alarming...these guys purposely engineered this virus.

The original SARS-like Coronavirus that can only infect bats cannot infect humans because a protein domain on the viral spike protein cannot bind to the ACE2 receptor on human airway epithelial cells.

Well...these guys at UNC Chapel Hill engineered one with a Coronavirus spike protein that CAN bind to human airway epithelial cells.

Now here's the kicker:

"Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from CoVs utilizing the novel spike protein."

In other words, our previous SARS based therapies based on monoclonal antibodies and vaccines developed for original SARS coronavirus failed to protect this new, genetically-engineered, I might add, coronavirus from using the "novel" spike protein. In other words, what we developed as therapies for SARS..don't work.

If that doesn't sound like bioweapons development, I don't know what does..

Now...for the kicker of all kickers: One of the scientists on this publication, a certain Zhengli Shi, woh was working as a post-doc at UNC Chapel Hill. Guess where she actually works? At the "Key Laboratory of Special Pathogensand Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

The laboratory that the Marketwatch article references above is the SAME laboratory that Zhengli Shi works at.

Now, before you guys think Stephen has gone off the deep end around possible conspirarcy theories, consider this paragraph at the end of the publication cited above:

"These studies were initiated prior to the U.S. Government Deliberative Process Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain of Function Research Involving Influenza, MERS, and SARS Viruses."

What does Gain of Function Research on Influenza, MERS and SARS Viruses mean? It means making pathogenic virues more contagious, more pathogenic with a higher lethality index.

This is code for Bioweapons engineering, gang. Just as "Enhanced Interrogation" is code.

Think about that....
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:27 PM
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That has been on the minds of many from day one, including my own. Very unlikely we will ever get the real truth. Some things are "too big to fail", some are "too sinister to tell"...

For the record, I hold a very neutral position on this topic. I would not be surprised if it was just another case of a bio-weapon that either slipped out or was deliberately unleashed. History does offer factual evidence from a few countries engaged in it and I am familiar with at least a few incidences.

At the same time, I would also not be surprised it is completely natural, although the deeper the research goes, the slimmer the odds are becoming. The article of this being a "Chimera" virus, two viruses that somehow infected the same host at once and recombined? Hmmm....
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:43 PM
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Thanks for this Stephen.

A very interesting topic so I hope everyone keeps this apolitical.

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Before reading my post below, please read the link to the Marketwatch article here: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...more_headlines

I'll explain why I am writing this post, but before I do, let me just level set my professional background about what the information below.

I retired only two years ago, but I spent my entire career working in Biotech as a professional molecular biologist with a background in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics, developing molecular diagnostics and molecular genetics tests. I'm also one of the inventors of PCR, which is the basic technology that underpins all current COVID-19 diagnostic testing.

I'm reading some interesting papers I've found on Net about SARS-CoV-2:

One of them, entitled, "SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence" has some disturbing content. The reference for this publication is: Nat. Med. 2015 December; 21(12): 1508–1513.

This is as group of scientists working at Univ. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. UNC Chapel Hill is a known and documented site for bioweapons research.

The abstract of the paper begins...

"In this study, we examine the disease potential for SARS-like CoVs currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations."

This is where it starts to get strange:

"Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone."

Now...here's where it gets scary:

"The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild type backbone can efficiently utilize multiple ACE2 receptor orthologs, replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells, and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV."

So, gang...here's what I find alarming...these guys purposely engineered this virus.

The original SARS-like Coronavirus that can only infect bats cannot infect humans because a protein domain on the viral spike protein cannot bind to the ACE2 receptor on human airway epithelial cells.

Well...these guys at UNC Chapel Hill engineered one with a Coronavirus spike protein that CAN bind to human airway epithelial cells.

Now here's the kicker:

"Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from CoVs utilizing the novel spike protein."

In other words, our previous SARS based therapies based on monoclonal antibodies and vaccines developed for original SARS coronavirus failed to protect this new, genetically-engineered, I might add, coronavirus from using the "novel" spike protein. In other words, what we developed as therapies for SARS..don't work.

If that doesn't sound like bioweapons development, I don't know what does..

Now...for the kicker of all kickers: One of the scientists on this publication, a certain Zhengli Shi, woh was working as a post-doc at UNC Chapel Hill. Guess where he actually works? At the "Key Laboratory of Special Pathogensand Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

The laboratory that the Marketwatch article references above is the SAME laboratory that Zhengli Shi works at.

Now, before you guys think Stephen has gone off the deep end around possible conspirarcy theories, consider this paragraph at the end of the publication cited above:

"These studies were initiated prior to the U.S. Government Deliberative Process Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain of Function Research Involving Influenza, MERS, and SARS Viruses."

What does Gain of Function Research on Influenza, MERS and SARS Viruses mean? It means making pathogenic virues more contagious, more pathogenic with a higher lethality index.

This is code for Bioweapons engineering, gang. Just as "Enhanced Interrogation" is code.

Think about that....
Great post Stephen...my only question on this is why after this paper was published did not someone, be it CDC or even USAMRID or WHO delve into this. This is one of the clearest and most compelling articles referenced thus far. And that's not code [emoji2]
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:55 PM
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Most blame the wet meat market, but this is interesting. Giant though it is, it's strange none of the others dotted around the country had the same issue. Perhaps it's not the infected bat-marsupial-Mmm this tastes nice human route, as he brought his sausages from the Wuhan market, and the luna new year flew 'em across the world.
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Marveling at the ingenuity of this virus (sarcasm) of how it is able to sustain itself for 17 days and counting on a cruise ship that has no hosts... While I was aware of the lack of clear data on such statistics, the average projections were way less than 17 days.

I also have nothing but deep respect for the scientists involved with such projects (those that are in it for the well-being of the human species and not those who seek ways of weaponizing such things although the lines are often blurred there in such labs) but at the same time have serious doubts that they can outsmart what we will assume is the creation of mother nature. Our best intellectual minds pale in creativity by comparison.

Of course we can not exactly rule out an external source (as in, look above is it a bird, is it a plane, no... it is an unknown flying object)

Can any experts in such topics chime in about the mechanism of sustaining a virus without a host for over 17 days? Has this been ever observed before?
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From what I understand the outbreak started in November. How many thousands of people who visited the Wuhan market each day caught it, or from friends and family as well, wen't on mass abroad trips by plane as the biggest holiday event in the year happened, and the week at least before real symptoms emerged, they probably thought they had caught a winter cold by the time nearly all four corners of the globe had absorbed their holiday mingling. Plus foreign residents returning home at the sniffles stage. They did't know the symptoms then. Dry cough mixed with a cold could be explained away. At least I'm not coughing up phlegm they must have thought.
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Great post Stephen...my only question on this is why after this paper was published did not someone, be it CDC or even USAMRID or WHO delve into this. This is one of the clearest and most compelling articles referenced thus far. And that's not code [emoji2]
As if any of the above mentioned organizations closely working with or being part of government systems would ever disclose such things publicly....
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Great article Stephen, and not so unrealistic.....is your last name King?
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As if any of the above mentioned organizations closely working with or being part of government systems would ever disclose such things publicly....
Very good point but still they should have delved into this covertly or otherwise and been more ready which was in fact my point.
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