Speaker Placement Video

[bodiezaffa]

Yet another Sumiko Master Audio Speaker Placement Video for your viewing and comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmXJqJ4QCt0&t=0s

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by bodiezaffa

Yet another Sumiko Master Audio Speaker Placement Video for your viewing and comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmXJqJ4QCt0&t=0s

Wow.

Hopefully the video is not indicative of the latest thinking on "improving" on MASTERs, but simply an inexperienced speaker set up guy doing a poor job of communicating the actual process, particularly the results desired and how steps are interrelated.

To understand what MASTERs is and is not, talk to Will Kline, Sonus faber's North American Brand Ambassador.

[crwilli]

What he said...

This video blog is a great example of somebody that thinks they have something valuable to say but as in most cases, (i am being kind) they don’t say anything.

[Antonmb]

Originally Posted by crwilli

What he said...

This video blog is a great example of somebody that thinks they have something valuable to say but as in most cases, (i am being kind) they don’t say anything.

Fully a third of the video is the guy pontificating on the importance of speaker positioning, and when he finally gets to it, the process is poorly and inaccurately described.

[gadawg]

I stopped watching 5 min in. Got bored.

George

[keef]

Bored - me too. He just kept yammering on! The best method I have found is Vandersteen’s where you divide the length and width of the room by uneven numbers to find intersections. Then experiment with placement and like he says once locked in you will know.

[Poppyhome]

Originally Posted by metaphacts

Wow.

Hopefully the video is not indicative of the latest thinking on "improving" on MASTERs, but simply an inexperienced speaker set up guy doing a poor job of communicating the actual process, particularly the results desired and how steps are interrelated.

To understand what MASTERs is and is not, talk to Will Kline, Sonus faber's North American Brand Ambassador.

Bill.........wondering if you knew or know Bob Robbins?

"Something was always missing though, and Bob didn’t know what it was, or how to verbalize it. Then, about 13 years ago, he was given the opportunity to go to Sumiko in Berkeley and was trained in their magical process – Master Speaker Setup. Everything he’d been looking and listening for in audio was discovered – the emotional involvement in the music. It convinced Bob that all the talk about the importance of specs, the “criticality” of equipment interfacing, all the buzz words so popular in discussions about audio, were, for the most part, irrelevant. The most important component in any audio or theater system is the proper placement and positioning of the speakers into the listening environment. Putting the speakers where they truly belong so they don’t fight each other, so they work in total unison not only with the other speaker but also with the room, is the end all be all for optimal music reproduction in the home. It will allow the music lover to experience music played in the home with all the sensory “chills and thrills” one gets when attending a concert."

Ron

[For The Love of Music]

Have not watched the video, but maybe it does help someone.

People operate at different speeds but want the best sound possible and there is no one solution to any of this and the more you know, your changes will less expensive.

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by Poppyhome

Bill.........wondering if you knew or know Bob Robbins?

"Something was always missing though, and Bob didn’t know what it was, or how to verbalize it. Then, about 13 years ago, he was given the opportunity to go to Sumiko in Berkeley and was trained in their magical process – Master Speaker Setup. Everything he’d been looking and listening for in audio was discovered – the emotional involvement in the music. It convinced Bob that all the talk about the importance of specs, the “criticality” of equipment interfacing, all the buzz words so popular in discussions about audio, were, for the most part, irrelevant. The most important component in any audio or theater system is the proper placement and positioning of the speakers into the listening environment. Putting the speakers where they truly belong so they don’t fight each other, so they work in total unison not only with the other speaker but also with the room, is the end all be all for optimal music reproduction in the home. It will allow the music lover to experience music played in the home with all the sensory “chills and thrills” one gets when attending a concert."

Ron

I do know Bob.

Among other duties, I was a one of the Sumiko MASTERs instructors from 1999 through 2014.

Bob came through when he was working for a retailer whose owner had more fully embraced the process than just about any other. The owner attended training in Berkeley yearly to make sure there was not something he missed or had changed. His bold demos of the effectiveness of his set up could best be described as "flying without a net." That retailer was the first of which I am aware who began selling his MASTERs expertise as a product to those who may have purchased speakers elsewhere. He has built quite a loyal client base to this day.

Some time after they parted ways, Bob began offering his version of MASTERs based set up services.

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by For The Love of Music

Have not watched the video, but maybe it does help someone.

People operate at different speeds but want the best sound possible and there is no one solution to any of this and the more you know, your changes will less expensive.

MASTERs as with any well developed set up process is a discipline. Placement decisions, while subjective, follow particular guidelines.

The video, not done by Bob, shows numerous incorrect aspects of the process. It is clear that the author of the video is either having a difficult time explaining or has not a clue as to why things happen in the process.

Misinformation/ incomplete information are the culprits of more wasted money in this industry than any others, imo.

As always, ymmv.