To the audiophile, this $10,000 Ethernet cable apparently makes sense

[Alki]

When I see this type of article I do keep one thing in mind, it is his opinion. He is entitled to his opinion. Respecting ones opinion is what we preach here at AA. No real reason to get overly excited over it.

Lets face it, most items in the "audiophile" world are not understood by the average individual. There are also items in the "audiophile" world that even some audiophiles have trouble with.

[Mikado463]

Originally Posted by Capcom

Honestly..I could care less what the sob thinks…

………therefore you actually 'care' !

Regardless, while the guy may in fact be nuts I do agree with him in that anyone spending 10k on an ethernet cable qualifies as somewhat wacko !

[doggiehowser]

We are having a similar discussion in another forum.

From what I am reading, most audio and video transmission are time-critical so the protocols they use are usually low latency ones like UDP and these can be susceptible to noise/errors.

You can implement error correction on UDP on a higher level but in time critical transmissions like audio - this isn't going to be possible in real time. Hence the possibility that even network cables make a difference.

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by chessman

The $10,000 cable he is alluding to is a 12 meter What audiophile would do that? No one would use a 12 meter USB cable for anything.

Well there are some Audiophiles who have more than one hobby.

[eljr]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

I found Lee Hutchinson's article pretty ignorant; I use this very cable between my Accuphase DP900/DC901 for an HS-Link. It is far superior to the Accuphase cable which was supplied with my units.

let me ask this rhetorically, to express my opinion and how I have come by it


Two questions

1 Why would you (or anyone) buy a product from a manufacturer that you needed to upgrade out of the box? I know if I felt a wire supplied from a company was not capable of maximizing the product it was being sold with I would not buy that product.

2 Can you quantify/qualify your opinion?

[eljr]

Originally Posted by Capcom

if my ears hear the improvements when I switch to a higher priced cable,
..then its worth the extra cost.

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With this I can agree.

I think it important however that one frames this honestly as opinion not fact when representing the improvement heard to others.

I see no reason to disallow for psychoacoustic improvement.

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by eljr

let me ask this rhetorically, to express my opinion and how I have come by it


Two questions

1 Why would you (or anyone) buy a product from a manufacturer that you needed to upgrade out of the box? I know if I felt a wire supplied from a company was not capable of maximizing the product it was being sold with I would not buy that product.

2 Can you quantify/qualify your opinion?

1) As an example Manufacturer A might decide to purchase Power Cord B Level 2 of 4 from cable company C because he thinks it works good and only adds $700 to his cost to his $20k list price amps.

Cable Company C also offers levels 3 and 4 which sell for $1400 and $2200. Manufacturer A balks at having to raise his MSRP by 10%.

2) Manufacturer A decides on Cable B for his gear. Your local dealer does not sell Cable B so he really does not want to display them with the product.

3) Every purchasing decision we make includes trade offs at some point. Every design and manufacturing decision by a manufacturer includes trade offs at some point.

[Haurock]

Originally Posted by eljr

let me ask this rhetorically, to express my opinion and how I have come by it


Two questions

1 Why would you (or anyone) buy a product from a manufacturer that you needed to upgrade out of the box? I know if I felt a wire supplied from a company was not capable of maximizing the product it was being sold with I would not buy that product.

2 Can you quantify/qualify your opinion?

How many people do you know buy a automobile and then spend all kinds of money 'upgrading' it? Why would upgrading a 'cable' be any different???

[bart]

Originally Posted by Haurock

How many people do you know buy a automobile and then spend all kinds of money 'upgrading' it? Why would upgrading a 'cable' be any different???

Yeah Rock, after all we're not so crazy, are we?!

[eljr]

Originally Posted by Haurock

How many people do you know buy a automobile and then spend all kinds of money 'upgrading' it? Why would upgrading a 'cable' be any different???

Missed my point.

I am not one of those to suggest that because a wire or rock cannot be demonstrated to improve performance that it therefore cannot contribute to uplifting the experience.

BTW, my questions were rhetorical to avoid this.

I have upgraded my cables but I didn't expect for a second that I would benefit from improved audio or vidio. I simply enjoy it aesthetically.

They do contribute to my enhanced pleasure derived from my audio.