Shunyata Anaconda vs Cardas Clear Beyond Speaker Cable

[CLEE]

Originally Posted by PlanarSpeakerFan

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the feedback, it is greatly appreciated. Over the last 12 months I've entirely upgraded my system except for the Clear Light ICs and SCs. The truth is these cables do a really nice job but I feel there is still some room for improvement. So I've been taking my time before making any decisions. At this point, the cables that are high on my list are the Cardas Clear and Clear Beyond, WW Eclipse 7 and Silver Eclipse 7 and the Nordost Tyr 2. My first inclination is to stick with Cardas, as I've been very happy with the Clear Light. But I'll probably try to demo each of these cables before I make any decisions.

All the best,
Ken

Hi Ken, If you like the Clear Light, I guess you will like the Clear or the Clear Beyond even more. Compared to the Clear Beyond, The Clear Light SC was almost bass shy in my system and had a (relatively) flatter soundstage.

I also have a Clear Light IC. I replaced it with a Kimber ks1026 (which seems to have better extensions and resolution) in my main system. I like the Clear Light IC and still keep it. I am using it in my headphone system for now.

An audiophile friend wants to bring his Kimber ks6033 SC over to compare with the Clear Beyond. If it happens I will report any worthy finding then.

--Charles

[Vhiner]

While I have no experience with Cardas cables, I do use Anaconda Zitron wire and have used other cables from a variety of manufacturers.

I just want to add my two cents about what I've learned about using the Shunyata line.I have never used wire that is more susceptible to being "moved around" than Shunyata Zitron SC's and IC's. Unless the movement is very minor, they usually need at least an hour to stabilize. This makes rapid A/B comparisons difficult. Additionally, I don't find such quick comparisons much use anyway. Instead, I live with cables for a few days before switching and then wait a day or two before reaching any conclusions.

Finally, I have also found that Shunyata Zitron cables perform best when used throughout the chain. The circuit they employ demonstrates its considerable strengths when it is present throughout the signal path. I discovered that mixing other lines in the path yielded unpredictable results. FWIW

[PlanarSpeakerFan]

Originally Posted by CLEE

Hi Ken, If you like the Clear Light, I guess you will like the Clear or the Clear Beyond even more. Compared to the Clear Beyond, The Clear Light SC was almost bass shy in my system and had a (relatively) flatter soundstage.

I also have a Clear Light IC. I replaced it with a Kimber ks1026 (which seems to have better extensions and resolution) in my main system. I like the Clear Light IC and still keep it. I am using it in my headphone system for now.

An audiophile friend wants to bring his Kimber ks6033 SC over to compare with the Clear Beyond. If it happens I will report any worthy finding then.

--Charles

Hi Charles,

This is good news. At this point, my first choice is moving to the Clear or Clear Beyond cables. There is also a possibility I may reconfigure my room, which would require much longer interconnect runs to my monoblocks. In this case, I would probably need to go WW Eclipse 7 on these interconnects due to the cost. But I would try to go Clear or Clear Beyond on the speaker cables and Clear on the interconnects between my CD player and preamp.

Thanks,
Ken

[raidho]

Originally Posted by Crion

Omar, can you specify what direct experience you have with the zitron anaconda speaker cable and zitron anaconda interconnect? You are talking very definitive but it could be misleading if you haven't used those specific cables in your system(?)

I had try a full cables Shunyata "set" with my system (Pass Xp20 / Xa100.5)
zitron Phyton xlr pre-powerampli.
zitron anaconda xlr pre-source
zitron anaconda speakers
power cabel zitron Alpha xp20/xa100.5/source/Dac

then in place of zitron Phyton & zitron anaconda xlr & speaker I tried Wireworld Silver Electra (pre-powerampli / pre-source) - speakers cabel today is a Kimber monocle XL.
power cabel zitron Alpha purchased. Top.

Wireworld with Class A ampli and the mix silver-copper is for my taste great.
pure silver like kimber xlr 1130 is too much "analitic": the kimber xlr 1126 sound better.

speakers cabel will I change with or a Wirewolrd Electra or silver Electra.
others: Cardas Clear light or if possible hte Clear. ($$$)

No power conditioner: loss of dynamics, soundstage and clarity of sound. Well in Switzerland we have a good power line, very stabil at 230V.
good power cabel, good power strip give you a good sound "basis" for the hifi system. --> a home need good basis too be stabil& work fine.


Omar

[Crion]

Thanks Omar!

[jsli]

Originally Posted by Vhiner

I have never used wire that is more susceptible to being "moved around" than Shunyata Zitron SC's and IC's.

Susceptible how--what do you hear?

[tima]

Originally Posted by jsli

Susceptible how--what do you hear?

The analogy I'd use here is the difference between the sound from equipment just turned on versus equipment well warmed up after an hour or two.

[jsli]

Originally Posted by tima

The analogy I'd use here is the difference between the sound from equipment just turned on versus equipment well warmed up after an hour or two.

Interesting! Thanks tima.

[Vhiner]

Originally Posted by jsli

Interesting! Thanks tima.

Tim has it right. I can't think of a better analogy.

[jsli]

Originally Posted by Vhiner

Tim has it right. I can't think of a better analogy.

How long does it take for this effect to dissipate?