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Old 03-02-2014, 02:16 PM
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Sticky tape underneath? Lift/pry gently?
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Old 03-02-2014, 03:56 PM
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Ok. You removed the 4 screws on top. How about the 2 screws on the back of unit that also secure the top lid.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:21 PM
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Okay.... after prying the lid off!! The top was held in place by 4 screws, but WOW that sucker was hard to move. Equally a real bear to get back on..... alas I digress...



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Old 03-02-2014, 08:15 PM
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Ken.......Thank you for the extra effort. There is a substantial difference in the two motherboards. Does the new MEN220 have a toriodal transformer or just the small transformer on the motherboard?


Newest MEN220 board

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Old 03-02-2014, 08:40 PM
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Ken.......Thank you for the extra effort. There is a substantial difference in the two motherboards. Does the new MEN22o have a toriodal transformer or just the small transformer on the motherboard?

Newest MEN220 board

Original MEN220 board
Nothing else...... just what I took pictures of.
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Jim.......I would be very interested to see the motherboard in the revise MEN220 with the ADM**** serial number. If you can photograph it, try to frame it similar to the one I posted so we cab stack the photos for a comparison.
Dan. I have been away but on my return I see that Ken popped the top and provided photos. Do you have what you need to make out the differences and chipsets used? I see from his post the top was difficult to remove. Jim
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:55 PM
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Ken.......Thanks again. There is a major difference in the power supply of the newest MEN220 iteration versus the original. It looks like the balanced output section has been redesigned to accommodate true balanced output. The original board pictured still had the balanced output issue that was yet to be corrected.

This elevated circuit board with Lyngdorf silkscreened on it seems to be replacing two elevated boards in the same general location on the original motherboard. The Analog Devices Black Fin dual core processor and the Spansion flash memory chip are most likely where the Room Perfect measurements, filters, and processing are handled. This appears to be a major overhaul of the original two boards for the same purpose.


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Old 03-02-2014, 10:06 PM
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Dan. I have been away but on my return I see that Ken popped the top and provided photos. Do you have what you need to make out the differences and chipsets used? I see from his post the top was difficult to remove. Jim
Jim.......I believe Ken's photos let us see enough to determine there are major changes between the original board and the newest one. Thanks.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:04 AM
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Any way to determine which version is most desirable? The elimination of the Toriodal power supply seems concerning, but does the upgraded electronics (if they are indeed an upgrade) make up for it?
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