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Old 09-02-2012, 01:52 PM
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Bob... No love for Aida?
They are gorgous but I have never heard a pair that sounded good -- no offense to owners or to the Aidas themselves -- where I heard them on 2 visits (and I believe you know where that was) the room was overcooked with sound dampening (and small too). So, the only folks who I trust who have heard them and comment on their merits have been yourself and Bill. Not a lot of post traffic from Jimmy -- who also has a pair (it is Jimmy isn't it??).

Many reports I've read attributes the room acoustics as being the problem, anyway, may have to fly northward and hear for myself. Having said that though, the reports I have heard from phone calls and emails, puts the Raidho ribbon tweeter ahead of the game. Dunno until I hear them for myself.

Decisions, decisions.

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Bob!!!! This is an awesome deal! I still can't believe you are going to do this.....

Good luck on the sale I think at this price they will move fast! Are you going to move away from SF or are you considering the Aidas?
Dunno -- possibly and leaning in that direction because as previously stated.

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They are gorgous but I have never heard a pair that sounded good -- no offense to owners or to the Aidas themselves -- where I heard them on 2 visits (and I believe you know where that was) the room was overcooked with sound dampening (and small too). So, the only folks who I trust who have heard them and comment on their merits have been yourself and Bill. Not a lot of post traffic from Jimmy -- who also has a pair (it is Jimmy isn't it??).

Many reports I've read attributes the room acoustics as being the problem, anyway, may have to fly northward and hear for myself. Having said that though, the reports I have heard from phone calls and emails, puts the Raidho ribbon tweeter ahead of the game. Dunno until I hear them for myself.

Decisions, decisions.

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I have "never" heard anything sound good where you mentioned.

You are always welcome to visit me when in the NE
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I have "never" heard anything sound good where you mentioned.

You are always welcome to visit when in the NE
Nice store front in the right place -- not impressed (and of course, with the owners purchase, Sumiko rep(s) were at his disposal rather than the other way around, if you know where I'm leading to).

May do that -- will be intouch if I lean in that direction Ivan. Thanks for the invite.

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Nice store front in the right place -- not impressed (and of course, with the owners purchase, Sumiko rep(s) were at his disposal rather than the other way around, if you know where I'm leading to).

May do that -- will be intouch if I lean in that direction Ivan. Thanks for the invite.

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What's extra fun is that on one floor, we can listen to Bryston/Futura's; MC2301's/Strad's; Burmester/Aida.
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Wow. This caught me by surprise. especially since it is happening so soon after your recent upgrade to your digital front end with that new dcs stack.

I will be watching.

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The madness continues here on AA. So far in the rubber room are Jim, Joe and now Bob....it's getting crowded. YES
Good luck with the sale Bob. I've never even heard of Raidho -- so thanks for that. Will you have to make any changes to your amplification to drive them?
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For anyone interested in Raidho, the C-1.1 and the C-2.1 will be shown at RMAF. Sorry for the hijack.
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For anyone interested in Raidho, the C-1.1 and the C-2.1 will be shown at RMAF. Sorry for the hijack.
Thanks for the info.

Raidho was there when I attended a few years back -- was impressed from looking over my notes of that visit -- but at that time any speaker over $15K new was not on my radar screen & besides, a local dealer nearby was for not.

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