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Old 07-08-2020, 01:21 PM
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Mark, I think your Tv3 was pre-KPIP processing. So the equipment shipping now all get a minimum of 4 days KPIP treatment. While this does not eliminate a settling period it does eliminate the radical rollercoaster ride of burn-in with its radical ups and downs.

I recommend that people just plug the new units in and play music and enjoy it as the unit settles. As Puma said, the initial improvement occurs in the first few day. Then, the subtle queues work themselves out.
I did not write anything that implied any kind of "wild rollercoaster...ups and downs".

I experienced great sound as you know from day1 and increasingly better results every day afterwards.

In the field, KPIP has done what you state, makes the initial days great but trust me on this, traditional break in times have yielded further positive results with conditioners as well as Sigma, Alpha and Omega cords and Sigma XLR analog and Clock cables.
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I did not write anything that implied any kind of "wild rollercoaster...ups and downs".

I experienced great sound as you know from day1 and increasingly better results every day afterwards.

In the field, KPIP has done what you state, makes the initial days great but trust me on this, traditional break in times have yielded further positive results with conditioners as well as Sigma, Alpha and Omega cords and Sigma XLR analog and Clock cables.
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that you said that it had great ups and downs. But just for others reading this, without KPIP, there is a radical up and down in the burn-in process.
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Tv3 and TQR major "wow" milestones were roughly 100 hours, 225 and 280-350, then 500. I don't imagine that the Everest will be much different.
I've just hit a major WOW milestone just over the past few hours, entering otherworldly territory. It's truly mind blowing how much harmonics, detail, real life and live soundstage is present even with CDs in the past I thought sounded pretty bad! I'll let you know when things have reached their zenith just for curiosity sake more than anything. It's all enjoyable from the beginning. I think its fun though to experience this progressive improvement.

In my own personal experience, YMMV, I have noted with KPIP treated power and signal cables a transient harshness during the first couple days of settling in as well as soundstage and detail collapsing a bit. Might last a couple hours to half a day. But after that I've noticed that the performance seems to take a very noticeable leap forward. So when I hear a step back I know there's great things and a nice jump forward coming in the near future. Quite a contrast to the days before KPIP! And the settling time is less than many other cables from others. Good heavens my JPS labs cables took hundreds of hours to sound really good. Can be helpful to know this for folks just trying some of these amazing Shunyata power distributors and cables for the first time.
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Great post DMelby...
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I just picked up a Everest from a local dealer to demo in my set-up. Just as with my Denali I plugged in my dCS units, pre-amp and analog (not sure why) I truly wasn't expecting a significant change but right out of the (unopened) box I knew something was different. With no break-in whatsoever the tracks all sounded more expansive and possibly with more weight.

Will keep you posted.
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I've just hit a major WOW milestone just over the past few hours, entering otherworldly territory. It's truly mind blowing how much harmonics, detail, real life and live soundstage is present even with CDs in the past I thought sounded pretty bad! I'll let you know when things have reached their zenith just for curiosity sake more than anything. It's all enjoyable from the beginning. I think its fun though to experience this progressive improvement.

In my own personal experience, YMMV, I have noted with KPIP treated power and signal cables a transient harshness during the first couple days of settling in as well as soundstage and detail collapsing a bit. Might last a couple hours to half a day. But after that I've noticed that the performance seems to take a very noticeable leap forward. So when I hear a step back I know there's great things and a nice jump forward coming in the near future. Quite a contrast to the days before KPIP! And the settling time is less than many other cables from others. Good heavens my JPS labs cables took hundreds of hours to sound really good. Can be helpful to know this for folks just trying some of these amazing Shunyata power distributors and cables for the first time.
Yep...that's Everest for you. Sounds very familiar.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that you said that it had great ups and downs. But just for others reading this, without KPIP, there is a radical up and down in the burn-in process.
Glad we confirmed today that my late November 2017 Tv3 was definitely KPIPed [emoji2]
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Yep...that's Everest for you. Sounds very familiar.
Dang Puma, day 9 and my Everest is continuing to blast higher in performance! H-o-l-y smokes this is sounding good today! If curious, at this point my experience is a week minimum was necessary to give me a glimpse of just how far the Everest could go but that was just the beginning! I've heard big (for me anyways) changes up and down during this time. Kind of like the Everest is climbing to a fantastic summit and while doing this needs to take a breather for a bit now and again. During this time it walks down a little hill and consolidates its gains
-then it locks in and gets back to marching ever higher!

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Dang Puma, day 9 and my Everest is continuing to blast higher in performance! H-o-l-y smokes this is sounding good today! If curious, at this point my experience is a week minimum was necessary to give me a glimpse of just how far the Everest could go but that was just the beginning! I've heard big (for me anyways) changes up and down during this time. Kind of like the Everest is climbing to a fantastic summit and while doing this needs to take a breather for a bit now and again. During this time it walks down a little hill and consolidates its gains
-then it locks in and gets back to marching ever ever higher!
That's great to hear, Dr. Melby.

I think I remember mine taking about 10 days to fully settle.

Mine is now "up on the cam" and "hitting on all cylinders" as we say in motor racing. Its like a Porsche 919 Evo Hybrid 'round the Nordschleife at Nurburgring...
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Congratulations! looks great.
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