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Old 06-01-2011, 10:39 PM
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Would a room correction device such as the KRK ergo or the DEQX solve much of the mystery and micro adjustments required to find the speakers "sweet spot"
Speaker set up is not a mystery. It is using the room where it can help you and eliminating it as much as possible where it is detrimental. You can certainly try a room correction device. But if your speakers are not properly set up in the room, you are not getting the best of either device.

For room correction devices to do what they should be doing they are the last thing you use - after everything else is correctly in place. It means their adjustments are not only subtle, but meaningful.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:56 PM
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I agree 100% Bill. Actually, you and I tried to connect months ago to help me with my speaker placement but living across the pond in Toronto makes that impossible and email chats were hard to coordinate.
I remember reading a thread where you were at Ivan's home helping him with his Elipsa's. You had the same song on continuous play as you began your ritual of adjusting the speaker placement, running back to the listening chair, over and over until you found their true voice. I know Ivan was blown away and that’s not easy to do with a Vet like MasterLu. For those like me, reference materials however gathered are a diatribe of disparities to thread a common theme...like trying to pull the answer out of a hat.
Coupled with an ear “still in basic training” one can’t help but to look at outsourcing the task. Don’t get me wrong, I love the way my Cremona M’ sound......until an ear with better listening skills takes a seat and starts on about this or that....
If we could clone you Bill, the audiophile community would be a more relaxed bunch with a lot more money in our bank accounts from all the components we didn’t have to buy. You could save us all.
Bill, The Audio Messiah. Has a nice ring to it, yes? I don’t know you Bill but I’ve read enough about you from others to conclude your high rankings and respect in the AA community is justified and earned.
Add me to that list.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:53 PM
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Great thread. I have only had me Amati's a couple days, so I have a LOT of playing around to do to get them dialed in.
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Played around a lot this weekend.

I have a difficult room. It's a large great room, A-frame style with floor to ceiling windows behind the speakers and no real back wall (Large entry foyer and a no wall hallway going right and left.

Back of the speakers are about 2.5 ft from the rear (windows) and about 8 ft from the side walls. They are about 12 feet apart, with the listening position at about 13.5.

First let me say the Amaiti's sound fantastic. Great center focus, wide soundstage, instruments are accurate, but they almost seem to like no toe in at all. In fact, if I toe them out a hair, the speakers totally disappear. If I toe them in slightly, the speakers reappear and become very notiecable.

Do your Amatis like toe in or do I just need to play around a bit more.
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Played around a lot this weekend.

I have a difficult room. It's a large great room, A-frame style with floor to ceiling windows behind the speakers and no real back wall (Large entry foyer and a no wall hallway going right and left.

Back of the speakers are about 2.5 ft from the rear (windows) and about 8 ft from the side walls. They are about 12 feet apart, with the listening position at about 13.5.

First let me say the Amaiti's sound fantastic. Great center focus, wide soundstage, instruments are accurate, but they almost seem to like no toe in at all. In fact, if I toe them out a hair, the speakers totally disappear. If I toe them in slightly, the speakers reappear and become very notiecable.

Do your Amatis like toe in or do I just need to play around a bit more.
Speakers are too close together relative to your listening position. That's part of why you get the toe in/toe out results you do.
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:24 PM
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Thanks Bill! Only had 5" to play with until my other cables arrive and even that little bit with a touch of toe in brought the soundstage forward a hair while the speakers are still transparent.

It's been nice re-discovering music I haven't listened to in a while because I didn't like how they sounded.

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