Transparent Audio Cable

[Noak]

Originally Posted by Picto

Noak, if you borrow or buy the Ultras, just make sure you get the MM2 technology (the latest) and not the former MM1 technology, which is one step below the MM2.

In fact the Ultras (with MM2) are known to be equivalent to the first level of the Reference lines (with MM1).

Bertrand

Bertrand, I looked through transparentcable's website but there wasn't any mention of MM2 for the Ultra speaker cables... did I miss something here?

[Picto]

Originally Posted by Noak

Bertrand, I looked through transparentcable's website but there wasn't any mention of MM2 for the Ultra speaker cables... did I miss something here?

Noak, all new cables include the MM2 technology. Though, the MM1 technology can frequently be found with Transparent cables sold on the second-hand market and sometimes with old demo cables at dealers.

You can check up the MM2 technology by reading the serial number under the cable's network, which is supposed to look like “xxxxxMM2xxxxx”.

Bertrand

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by Noak

Bertrand, I looked through transparentcable's website but there wasn't any mention of MM2 for the Ultra speaker cables... did I miss something here?

Noak, listen to Bertrand. Transparents model line-up and history of change from XL to MM1 to MM2 can be confusing at first. If you are buying from a Authorized Dealer it will not be an issue. If you are buying from A-gon just be careful you are getting what you want. I will look for a post I made trying to show how confusing it can get and add it here for you.

[jfrech]

Hi Jim, what speaker cable did you have before your Opus mm2? I have Ref MM (MM2)...considering trading up...have Ref MM MM2 interconnect (digital to pre...pre to amp)...I did recently go from Ref XL MM2 to Opus MM2 off my phono to pre and was pretty much floored by the improvement...

Speakers: Rockport Altair 2
Preamp: Robert Koda K10 Amp: Ayre MX-R
Cables: Transparent Reference MM - MM2 version interconnect & spkr (Opus MM2 Phono to Pre)
Power Shunyata Triton/Typhon, Anaconda Zitron cords (x9)
Digital dCS Scarlatti Clock/Trans/Dac with Transparent Reference XL Digital cables (clock and dual aes)
Phono: Grand Prix Monaco TT, Schroder LT arm, Jan Allaerts MC2 Finish & Lyra Atlas, Nagra VPS/VFS
Racks: Grand Prix Audio Silverstone F1 (x2)

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by jfrech

Hi Jim, what speaker cable did you have before your Opus mm2? x2)

I was using Reference MM2 all around. So far I have only swapped out the speaker cable. My mistake was trying out the Opus. I am still considering moving my gear to another room and until I decide I don't know what length I will need. My opinion is the speaker and power cords have much more impact than the IC's.

[jfrech]

Originally Posted by Still-One

I was using Reference MM2 all around. So far I have only swapped out the speaker cable. My mistake was trying out the Opus. I am still considering moving my gear to another room and until I decide I don't know what length I will need. My opinion is the speaker and power cords have much more impact than the IC's.

Seems like the same experience I had going from Ref xl mm2 to Opus MM2 on just one interconnect...total mistake..ruined me

[Noak]

Originally Posted by Picto

Noak, all new cables include the MM2 technology. Though, the MM1 technology can frequently be found with Transparent cables sold on the second-hand market and sometimes with old demo cables at dealers.

You can check up the MM2 technology by reading the serial number under the cable's network, which is supposed to look like “xxxxxMM2xxxxx”.

Bertrand

Bertrand, thanks for the helpful information. I will take notice of the serial number under the network box.

Originally Posted by Still-One

Noak, listen to Bertrand. Transparents model line-up and history of change from XL to MM1 to MM2 can be confusing at first. If you are buying from a Authorized Dealer it will not be an issue. If you are buying from A-gon just be careful you are getting what you want. I will look for a post I made trying to show how confusing it can get and add it here for you.

Agreed. I would prefer to buy from AD too.

[2fastdriving]

I am borrowing TA Ref XL speaker cables while my TA Ref are being "tuned" for my amp. These are set up for tube amps already. As soon as I hit play I realized how hard it will be to let these go back. And I'm a previous non believer in cables. Ugh!

I hope mine sound close to this when I get them back. This is terrible! How does TA do this?

[j3brow]

Originally Posted by 2fastdriving

I am borrowing TA Ref XL speaker cables while my TA Ref are being "tuned" for my amp. These are set up for tube amps already. As soon as I hit play I realized how hard it will be to let these go back. And I'm a previous non believer in cables. Ugh!

I hope mine sound close to this when I get them back. This is terrible! How does TA do this?

oh boy, you are in trouble Marc!
I borrowed Ref XL interconnects and speaker cables last summer
My baseline was Ultra
I ended up buying 2 pairs of balanced interconnects, Ref XL
I remain at Ultra level speaker cables but I want Ref XL in a bad way
i had the Ref XL for 2 solid months, it was painful to give them back!!!!!!

Good luck

actually, I'm hoping you report back that stepping back to Ref level wasn't so painful (give or take 5k vs 10k on top of Ultra trade back)

[PLK]

Originally Posted by 2fastdriving

I am borrowing TA Ref XL speaker cables while my TA Ref are being "tuned" for my amp. These are set up for tube amps already. As soon as I hit play I realized how hard it will be to let these go back. And I'm a previous non believer in cables. Ugh!

I hope mine sound close to this when I get them back. This is terrible! How does TA do this?

I tried some TA REF ICs/SCs which were tuned for my ARC/WA combo and found nothing to justify their high price.

I was very happy to reinstall my Nanotec Systems cables.