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[Talk2me]

Originally Posted by JohnThomas

Rocco are you sure your not a salesman for Burmester. Well I guess my next purchase will have to be the 808MK5. I wonder what the 089 sounds like as a pre-amp compared to the 808 probably not even close.

I will have to disagree. The preamp section of the 089 is very close not the same. It is so good that the only way to improve the rpreamp section in the 089, is to get the 077.

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by JohnThomas

Rocco are you sure your not a salesman for Burmester. Well I guess my next purchase will have to be the 808MK5. I wonder what the 089 sounds like as a pre-amp compared to the 808 probably not even close.

Hi, John,

surely I'm not a salesman of Burmester. My activity si completely different and no any link with audio gears. My passion for the music and for these gears is "truly".:

Coming back on topic, the Burmester 808 MK5 is the best preamp where the cost is not object. I compared it side by side with 077's and I've to say that It is also an incredibible gear, but personally I prefer the magic sound of 808 MK5 that became my stable preamp.

The 089 is a good cd player with a good preamplifier-function..Inserting a Burmester preamplifier the music improves dramatically in all concerns.

Kind regards.

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by tonepub

What about the 077? I've heard that with excellent results....

Compared side by side 808 and 077 into my Burmester system.

The 077 is sonically an excellent preamp. It has a lot of functions, more than 808.

The 077's overall sound is different from 808's, even respects the imprinting of Burmester's. At my ears, the 077's sonically is not 100% neutral like 808's. It has and incredible micro-dynamic. Very fast in the transients and the soundstage is millimetrically precise.

The 808's has the neutrality like no other preamp (tube or solid state) tested in my system. It has an elegant style to play music with exacting balance, realness, liveness and lifelike. A spacious soundstaging with all-enveloping sense of air and exceedingly wide bandwidth. The transparency is huge and the timbral is completeness and lifelike verisimilitude of the music. Much smoother and far more refined.

With 808's you're captured by his music expression, enjoying the music to sound amazingly true to life. Truly great sound.

However, we're talking about two excellent preamps, surely two of the best worldwide.

Kind regards.

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by Talk2me

I will have to disagree. The preamp section of the 089 is very close not the same. It is so good that the only way to improve the rpreamp section in the 089, is to get the 077.

I tested the 069's with the internal preamp and then inter-playing 808 and 077. At my ears, using one of these preamp, the sound's improvement was huge.

Kind regards.

[Talk2me]

To me the difference was 077 was 98% perfect, the 069 93% and the 089 was 85%. But, I still use my 1,500 cd's. And with the internal belt drive transport, there is no equal to the 069 and then 089, IMHO.

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by Talk2me

..... And with the internal belt drive transport, there is no equal to the 069 and then 089, IMHO.

I'm fully agree with you.

Kind regards.

[TommyC]

Can anyone describe the difference in sound between belt drive transport and regular transport?

[Rocco]

According Dieter Burmester, who invented the belt-driven CD transport (1990) and first belt-drive CD, affirms that its belt-driven transport has the advantage of decoupling the laser from the drive motor, resulting in a significantly higher readout of the CD, which is not afflicted with digital jitter.

[TommyC]

Originally Posted by Rocco

According Dieter Burmester, who invented the belt-driven CD transport (1990) and first belt-drive CD, affirms that its belt-driven transport has the advantage of decoupling the laser from the drive motor, resulting in a significantly higher readout of the CD, which is not afflicted with digital jitter.

Interesting. Does that mean it sounds more like analog?

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by TommyC

Interesting. Does that mean it sounds more like analog?

That's correct..but without the defects of turntable....