Bryston SP3 Preamp-Processor

[jamshed]

I would like to add I LOVE bryston 14 bsst2 vocals but I find it looses bit of control at the bottom end not clear boundary of deep bass and not as much extension of bass(I hope I am using the correct terms ) and I thought adding a bryston Pre pro (sp3) might help resolve this problem.
While I was doing all this experimentation to get sp3 in my system I bumped across a good deal of Pass labs 360.5 and ended up in buying that.
It's a very good amp with better control on bass but doesn't match bryston 14bsst2 vocal (so big and gives a feel of being real some one in your room..Mind you clarity is different and feeling of realism is different, its some time hard to explain but bryston 14bsst2 gives me joy and now I am thinking may be bryston 28bsst2 could give the missing links in bottom end.
Thanks for listening.

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[harri009]

Originally Posted by jamshed

I would like to add I LOVE bryston 14 bsst2 vocals but I find it looses bit of control at the bottom end not clear boundary of deep bass and not as much extension of bass(I hope I am using the correct terms ) and I thought adding a bryston Pre pro (sp3) might help resolve this problem.
While I was doing all this experimentation to get sp3 in my system I bumped across a good deal of Pass labs 360.5 and ended up in buying that.
It's a very good amp with better control on bass but doesn't match bryston 14bsst2 vocal (so big and gives a feel of being real some one in your room..Mind you clarity is different and feeling of realism is different, its some time hard to explain but bryston 14bsst2 gives me joy and now I am thinking may be bryston 28bsst2 could give the missing links in bottom end.
Thanks for listening.

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Hi Jamshed, - I have a friend who moved from a Pass X350.5 to the bryston 7bsst2's and he loved the Brystons. He said he instantly heard better vocals and more definition, he will never go back to pass. I took my magtech over to his home a few weeks ago where we A/B'd the amps. The magtech was noticeably more laid back in the upper end but definitely added a bass punch that the Brystons were missing. I agree that the next logical step for you may be the 28's.

[jamshed]

Great info guys thanks.
At the end its being content what you have and this doesn't happen till you have explored and experimented .
I had to try 350.5 and now go to better bryston .
This is expensive ,taxing but gives you joy .
Thanks

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[Stefan_DR3]

Originally Posted by jamshed

borrowed SP26 from dealer for overnight and it was very upsetting and quite different from reviews .Boomy ,not clear at all,definitely louder and more analogue sound than anthem Mrx 700 as Pre .

It sounds like you are hearing gross differences when there should not be, if both systems are setup equally. If one was louder than the other then you have not done a fair comparison. Do you own an SPL meter or voltmeter to match levels before listening?

I have connected oppo95 direct to bryston 14bsst2,amazing clarity and control but no depth and width and volume of sound stage everything very flat .
So I have no choice but to try other Pre or take a plunge for Sp3 but my experimentation doesn't support it .

You're saying the Oppo, with no preamp sounded flatter than with the MRX used as a preamp? That is very high praise for the MRX. Also please remind us whether your priority is 2-channel analog or home theatre. What speakers are you conducting the tests with and is there any sub involved? Also what is the source material, 2.0 or other?

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[Stefan_DR3]

Originally Posted by jamshed

After few days of that sp26 trial .
I got my room assessed and specialist /accoustic came and assessed my room and he said my room is fine ,no treatment required.

Do your ARC measurements (red line in the charts) corroborate that assessment? We still have not seen your ARC charts and TARGETS window settings to make sure your MRX is setup optimally.

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[jamshed]

Originally Posted by Stefan_DR3

It sounds like you are hearing gross differences when there should not be, if both systems are setup equally. If one was louder than the other then you have not done a fair comparison. Do you own an SPL meter or voltmeter to match levels before listening

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Jamshed said----

I am quite positive it was not the loudness of the sound which was making me hear the difference in character of sound.Although I admit with bryston bp 26 my system was sounding louder and I had to turn down the volume .
Bryston Pre didnot
1-make the vocals clear at all but added bit analogue flavor to it.(Mrx good crisp ,shreaky vocal )
2-secondly and most importantly I wanted to make bass of by bryston amp 14 bsst2 more CONTROLLED,DIG DEEP,WELL DEFINED .
Which unfortunately bryston Pre made worse and the bass was so much more out of control,boomy and created a veil of bass overpowering every other sound.
I want to enjoy bass guitar and deep digging bass which create fear in me and let me hear on loud volumes before creating abnormal uncomfortable feel achy,boomy feel in my ears.
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Stefan said----

You're saying the Oppo, with no preamp sounded flatter than with the MRX used as a preamp? That is very high praise for the MRX. Also please remind us whether your priority is 2-channel analog or home theatre. What speakers are you conducting the tests with and is there any sub involved? Also what is the source material, 2.0 or other

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Jamshed said--------

My priority is 2-channel and I love watching nice action movies as well.
I have integrated JL audio f113 subwoofer but with bryston Pre I had to take it off as I could not integrate subwoofer with bryston Pre and most of my listening then was without subwoofer .
My speakers paradigm sig 8.
The source material tracks from hd tracks
Cd ripped and all hd tracks on ext hard drive connected with esata cable to modified oppo by ModWright and conection through analogue section to Pre .
I must admit MRX is giving a very good product at that price point .
It is very impressive.
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[jamshed]

Sorry I have done some thing wrong the way I have sent the reply
Sorry Stefan and other friends

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[Stefan_DR3]

Perhaps a mod could move this discussion to another forum, as I don't think it is fair to Bryston, monopolizing the manufacturer's thread.

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Jamshed,
Thanks for the reminders and additional info. How close are your main speakers to the walls?

I strongly recommend getting an SPL meter and a disc with test tones, to make sure you have set the volume controls evenly. It will also help you integrate your sub in the analog domain when using it with an analog preamp. At this level of equipment you shouldn't be fooling around.

[jamshed]

Sure thanks

I shall .

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[mangolego]

Hi James,

It is the very first time that I post anything on any forum but I am to curious. Is the BUC-01 the thing that we have long been waiting as the new module for USB upgrade for the SP3. Or is their will be a card or a chip set that will be install in the SP3 ?