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Old 07-31-2019, 06:29 AM
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I appreciate the information and opinions, very helpful and very much what I was looking for.

wkliw, I am new to this level of digitized music, could you elaborate on the 'Chord' approach and how it differs from "MQA" approach please?

Peter, would you be so kind as to discuss what led you to go Yggy/Qobuz and the reasons to go from Tidal/MQA if that was the decision?
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One approach favors long linear phase filter with lots of ringing. The other tries to eliminate ringing (especially pre-ringing) in the hope of achieving more "analog" sound.
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I appreciate the information and opinions, very helpful and very much what I was looking for.

wkliw, I am new to this level of digitized music, could you elaborate on the 'Chord' approach and how it differs from "MQA" approach please?

Peter, would you be so kind as to discuss what led you to go Yggy/Qobuz and the reasons to go from Tidal/MQA if that was the decision?
I'm not Peter, but if you don't mind....

As I understand it, MQA and Chord's WTA (Watts Transient Alignment) filter-based approach are two ways of trying to do the same thing, viz., get the timing of transients right so as to more accurately recover the original analog wave.

Much has been written on Rob Watts' approach for Chord. See the paper at https://www.moon-audio.com/mwdownloa...d/link/id/159/
for example. But I think the best way to get an idea of what Watts is up to is to watch some of his presentations on YouTube. There are several. Just search 'Rob Watts' on YouTube.

Much has also been written on MQA. Here though there seems to be a lot more controversy about exactly what's going on with the process.
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I appreciate the information and opinions, very helpful and very much what I was looking for.

wkliw, I am new to this level of digitized music, could you elaborate on the 'Chord' approach and how it differs from "MQA" approach please?

Peter, would you be so kind as to discuss what led you to go Yggy/Qobuz and the reasons to go from Tidal/MQA if that was the decision?
I have always ripped CDs, so I did not switch from Tidal. The Yggy is extraordinary for the price, and I don't think I could improve my DAC for less than $20K
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I'm not Peter, but if you don't mind....

As I understand it, MQA and Chord's WTA (Watts Transient Alignment) filter-based approach are two ways of trying to do the same thing, viz., get the timing of transients right so as to more accurately recover the original analog wave.

Much has been written on Rob Watts' approach for Chord. See the paper at https://www.moon-audio.com/mwdownloa...d/link/id/159/
for example. But I think the best way to get an idea of what Watts is up to is to watch some of his presentations on YouTube. There are several. Just search 'Rob Watts' on YouTube.

Much has also been written on MQA. Here though there seems to be a lot more controversy about exactly what's going on with the process.
I don't mind at all, thank you for posting. It was and continues to be my hope that we can keep the focus of this thread on sound quality and avoid discussing the controversies.

I read the paper. They seem to, as is quite common, improperly invoke Nyquist.
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I have always ripped CDs, so I did not switch from Tidal. The Yggy is extraordinary for the price, and I don't think I could improve my DAC for less than $20K
My mistake. That was sid325. Sid325, if you would be so kind as to elucidate on your motivation for the change please?
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I had both Tidal and Qobuz before I bought my Yggy, prior I was using the DAC in my MCD1100, but with the Yggy I noticed an improvement in both services. In the end, Qobuz offers more music I like, less of a focus on rap, and standard Hi-res files that my Yggy will fully decode. I have absolutely no regrets buying the Yggy. I really didn’t care about the whole MQA thing..
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