800 series and bass

[robd2]

Originally Posted by KaliKid2013

If you're not satisfied with the bass, before spending any money on subwoofers, I would get a good omnidirectional microphone, and run Room EQ Wizard (free), or another comparable room measuring program.

+1 on this

[Grasshopper]

I should note that I noticed a big difference after adding the MEN220-

Room is a big factor for sure.

Originally Posted by KaliKid2013

If you're not satisfied with the bass, before spending any money on subwoofers, I would get a good omnidirectional microphone, and run Room EQ Wizard (free), or another comparable room measuring program.

Depending on your room, it can be difficult to get good bass response. If the base seems lacking, it is possible that the room is the culprit, not necessarily the speakers.

I am very happy with the bass of my 802 D3, some frequencies did seem a little lacking, so I ran Room EQ Wizard, and found I had a 20 db null at about 50 hz in my listening position. I did some strategic bass trapping, and now they sound even better than they did.

Most base problems are easily rectified with bass trapping, once identified. I would definitely suggest you check out realtraps.com, Ethan has some wonderful resources there about identifying and solving room mode problems, and his company also makes very good bass traps.

[KaliKid2013]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I should note that I noticed a big difference after adding the MEN220-

Room is a big factor for sure.

I got a MEN220 a couple months ago, it actually helped me to improve the sound in my room and I unexpectedly found it to be a really great learning tool.

It showed me how good my room could sound, so that sent me on a quest to try to fine tune everything so it sounds as good when not using the room correction, as it does when I use it.

So when I started, with 99% room knowledge, it was using about 20% to 25% room correction.

After diligently reading, testing, and tweaking, I now have it down to 9% correction with 99% room knowledge, so I find myself needing to use it less, simply because I don't need it as much.

Because of this, I was actually contemplating selling it, but I really like the unit, and it's just so damn hard to part with anything that says Macintosh on it, LOL.

[Art Vandelay]

If set up correctly, a pair of 800 or 802 D series will provide bass down to 20Hz.

The main difference between 800 and 802 D2/D3 is the amount of SPL possible at very low frequencies, and to an extent the amount of distortion.

The newer D3 models have reduced distortion and a flatter response through the mid and upper bass.

[PeterMusic]

I demoed a MEN220, and it improved my bass markedly. But it lost a bit on the high end, so I did not purchase. I agree with KaliKid's point--it's a great unit if you have a very compromised room, but as the room improves, it's value declines. Of course, you can get a lot of subwoofer (and even more bass trapping!) for $5K

[Carlos84]

I just order the 800 d3 for my house , but i am afraid that i have too much bass sound?
i see some people who have that, i ask a company who fix sound problems they are famous in my country because they do fix at more hi end shops in my country , they told me
as long if you not put him an a badroom ,its not problem ,he told its a Myth ,that people say that ,it's al about the sound wave he told. Also the hi end store told ,no problem for my room. i hope so.
my room is 5,20 cm x 600 cm (in feet its 17 x 19 x 8)
the ceiling is 2,70 cm high ,and my floor have tiles ,the speakers will be 500 cm of my
sitting position, i stay in the Nederlands

[mike175gr]

Carlos84, I love my 802D3 speakers, but I think that I should have stretched and purchased the 800D3 as my room is quite large and opens up into a larger room with 26 foot high ceilings. I think tat you will be in good shape, but others here with more information will surely add their thoughts.

[Masterlu]

Carlos84... Welcome to AA!

[Carlos84]

Thanks!!

[PeterMusic]

Hi Carlos,

Congratulations! I agree with your dealer--your room is big enough, and you will not have too much bass. I do not have 800s, but I have had problems with too much bass in smaller rooms with subwoofers--the deepest sound waves that your dealer mentioned are too long for the room and they end up bouncing off of each other and/or the walls. But you should be fine.

You might think about a rug for the tile floor--but that would be for any speakers, not just the 800s

Enjoy