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Old 02-15-2018, 08:01 PM
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I have had Minis under my K-03x for over a year and can’t say I heard any difference before and after. Well...

Today I installed some Ultra SS Blacks on my MC2301s and placed Black Minis under my C1100.

I followed Bob’s (Vintage_Tube’s) advice and removed the bottom cover of the MC2301s then installed the Ultra SSs. Worked great although my pressed on nuts stayed put.

Here are some pics of the in-process. While I had the cover off, I snapped a picture of the underbelly of the MC2301. The voltage jumpers are clearly visible and would making changing voltage very easy.

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Finally, just because.

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As for the sound improvement:

Everything became better. Blacker background with cleaner & clearer separation of the instruments in space. The music sounds more at ease.

Now I am saving for more minis to isolate my SilenZio, G-02 clock and CR-1 crossover.
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:18 PM
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So from your experience I'm getting Stillpoints are most effective on tube gear? What led me to this is you stating you noticed no difference using the Mini's unter your K-03x.
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:29 PM
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Can’t say Don. They certainly work with tube pre and power amplifiers in my case (but I can’t split the improvement between the minis on my pre and the Ultras on the power amps). I will get more minis for the remaining equipment I have and see if it inches the performance up further.

But perhaps I will remove the minis from the K-03x and see what happens...

Might save myself some $$...
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:13 PM
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Following the thread Craig!
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:43 PM
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Craig, whatever you do stay away from Stillpoints Ultra 5s. They were such a huge improvement on my speakers that it felt like I got new speakers.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:09 PM
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Craig, whatever you do stay away from Stillpoints Ultra 5s. They were such a huge improvement on my speakers that it felt like I got new speakers.


That should be easy at nearly $700 each. Plus without a special platform, Stillpoints won’t work on the Strads.
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I have had Minis under my K-03x for over a year and can’t say I heard any difference before and after. Well...

Today I installed some Ultra SS Blacks on my MC2301s and placed Black Minis under my C1100.

I followed Bob’s (Vintage_Tube’s) advice and removed the bottom cover of the MC2301s then installed the Ultra SSs. Worked great although my pressed on nuts stayed put.

As for the sound improvement:

Everything became better. Blacker background with cleaner & clearer separation of the instruments in space. The music sounds more at ease.

Now I am saving for more minis to isolate my SilenZio, G-02 clock and CR-1 crossover.

Glad you were able to do this and hear how amazing these little suckers are, and yes these little guys are not cheap.
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Today I completed my madness and installed Minis under my P10, G-02 Clock, SilenZio and CR-1 Crossover.

They have abolished all noise and make the music just ‘appear’ in front of me.
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Other - 2 Stillpoint Apertures, GIK Bass Traps, Vicoustics Waveguide panels, Shunyata Alpha Clock 75 1.5 meter BNC, Shunyata Alpha 1.5 meter USB, WW Gold Eclipse 7 SCs, WW Silver Electra 7 PCs, WW Silver Eclipse ICs; 3 X 20 Amp Power lines, PS Audio P10 & Dectet, 3 Sound Anchor stands, Powerports and numerous Noise Harvesters. Furutech Flex 50, Cable risers, HRS dampeners

TV Room Audio - Panasonic TC-P60GT50, McIntosh MX-121, MC7106, Revel F52 & C32, B&W LM1, Sonos Connect\W4S Remedy\iFI 9V Power, WW & Kimber cables, PS Audio Dectet
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:21 PM
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Today I completed my madness and installed Minis under my P10, G-02 Clock, SilenZio and CR-1 Crossover.

They have abolished all noise and make the music just ‘appear’ in front of me.
I love that 'in the house' imaging you're experiencing Craig. Congrats.

Forgive me, I have to go -- Nat is bugging me to take a break & go out to the screened-in-porch to have a smoke. Later.

Best Sir,

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Old 02-28-2018, 01:58 AM
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I had the same experience. Minis under the C-1100 first, and did not notice any improvement. Then the Ultra SSs showed up, and upon installing them under the MC-2301s, I became a believer as well!
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