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Old 04-13-2019, 08:19 AM
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Turbo-4s. Yuck........... that's why we have the C350 and 128i. Normally aspirated 6 or 8 until we are forced to go electric. Guessing we have 6-10yr before that happens.
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Turbo-4s. Yuck........... that's why we have the C350 and 128i. Normally aspirated 6 or 8 until we are forced to go electric. Guessing we have 6-10yr before that happens.
Depends on the actual use of the vehicle. Turbo 4 sounds like a weak sauce option. In reality if one is not tapping into the reserves of power on a daily basis, it is really difficult to explore all the ponies on public roads without getting into trouble. Unless one lives out in the country and not towns where the speed limits are 25-35 mph... and stop signs and traffic lights everywhere you go, all those ponies are doing nothing but feeding the ego of the “average Joe” driver.

Launches from traffic light to traffic light are juvenile and get old real quick. The access to the nice twisty back roads on the other hand opens up the realm of where a vehicle such as a Porsche or BMW really shines but even then the handling is much more important that the amount of ponies.

I can explore the limits of my 150hp 2200lb Miata RF with ease on the back roads and still be on the “I may get a ticket but not go to jail” side of the equation... show me where or how one can explore the limits of a 500hp car but I’ll watch from the side not from inside that car.

This is coming from a guy who used to be in into all kinds of fast cars with way more hp than would be sane or logical.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:45 AM
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Back to the topic at hand.....

Howzabout a Grand Cherokee? Yeah, I have heard it all before (US quality sucks, Jeep sucks etal)
Any feedback from Actual Grand Cherokee owners?
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:02 PM
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Howzabout a Grand Cherokee? Yeah, I have heard it all before (US quality sucks, Jeep sucks etal)
Any feedback from Actual Grand Cherokee owners?
Grand Cherokee Overland as a daily here. Love it. I've owned quite a few GC in the few last decades (on and off) and have never had anything bad to say about them.

Granted, I do not keep them for a long time as I typically lease my daily drivers so can't comment as to long term reliability but have not had any issues or problems whatsoever with my few years old GC Overland edition so far.

The GC fills all my needs in terms of cargo for my hobbies, comfort on short/long trips, fantastic all weather traction (have been caught in two serious blizzards so far with zero issues of getting home in abysmal highway snow conditions with many cars and some other SUVs stranded on the side of the highway... It checks all the boxes on my list of expectations and for the money offers quite a bit of value overall.
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Old 04-14-2019, 07:55 PM
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I have a 2016 X3 that I bought new and have been very happy with. No problems and a great car for a long drive. Lots of power for me with the turbo 4. I hated the run flats and replaced them with normal tires and put an inflation kit in the trunk. The run flat snow tires we had at first were horrible but the Michelin X-ice tires transformed winter driving. Best of luck with your search!
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:40 AM
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Still searching and have decided to look at some new vehicles being released in the fall.

2020 Ford Explorer

2020 Lincoln Corsair

I stopped in to the local Ford dealer a few few weeks ago just for the halibut.
Drove a new (outgoing) MKC and Nautilus and was very impressed with build quality.)

Also will look the new Volvo V60 Cross Country and 2020 Subaru Outback.
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