ChronosonicXVX

[Charles]

Originally Posted by For The Love of Music

So it’s confirmed?

I know now I can afford it. I'm hopping to make the announcement on Monday and pass the check and sign the contract Wed. I will check with Wilson to confirm they have received the funds on Thurs. My dealer will inform me if Wilson is good with his measurements. What will be the actual height of an unspiked xvx at about 10'-11' tweeter to ear distance and ear height of 37.5"? Wilson must give the final go ahead in conference with my dealer. I'm so hoping I can do this. I will be disappointed beyond belief if the deal goes bad at this point because it will be too tall. This is not some odd distance or ear height. Things should be good but I'm nervous

p.s. Color will be Galaxy Grey with stainless steel trim.

[W9TR]

Hey Charles, first, congrats! Maybe a little premature but what the heck. And if the holdup is the venue, a little structure modification may make it golden. Never say never! Good luck in pulling this off - very cool.
Tom

[audioguy3107]

Originally Posted by Charles

I know now I can afford it. I'm hopping to make the announcement on Monday and pass the check and sign the contract Wed. I will check with Wilson to confirm they have received the funds on Thurs. My dealer will inform me if Wilson is good with his measurements. What will be the actual height of an unspiked xvx at about 10'-11' tweeter to ear distance and ear height of 37.5"? Wilson must give the final go ahead in conference with my dealer. I'm so hoping I can do this. I will be disappointed beyond belief if the deal goes bad at this point because it will be too tall. This is not some odd distance or ear height. Things should be good but I'm nervous

p.s. Color will be Galaxy Grey with stainless steel trim.

Charles - I can tell you with 100% certainty that Wilson Audio (being the manufacturer) will NOT say, "sorry Charles, yeah, they're just a bit too tall and won't work in your room, sorry about that." Do you really think that any manufacturer would turn down a $330,000 sale based on them being slightly too tall? C'mon.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by audioguy3107

Charles - I can tell you with 100% certainty that Wilson Audio (being the manufacturer) will NOT say, "sorry Charles, yeah, they're just a bit too tall and won't work in your room, sorry about that." Do you really think that any manufacturer would turn down a $330,000 sale based on them being slightly too tall? C'mon.

The height of the speaker is critical. I spoke with the person I have dealt with for 15 years after all the measurements were made. He said 99% certainty. I have zero idea of how the sitting distance affects the height of the xvx or how an unspiked xvx affects the height. An unspiked xvx effectively raises the ear height. The height of the spike is variable so I think an unspiked height setting on a thin mat should be no problem for the tables. Does a closer distance increase the height of the xvx. Does a higher ear height increase the height of an xvx? If so by how much? The minimum sitting distance is 8 '. What is the height of an xvx at this distance? But all I need to know is if I give them 10-11 feet sitting distance and 37.5" unspiked ear height, just please supply me the height a very accurate height.

This is a mammoth purchase and it never hurts to cover all the bases. Is 73 and 5/8 inches the real height of an unspiked xvx at my sitting distance and ear height? We based our assessment on 74". There is excellent clearance at a 74" maximum speaker height.

As to Wilson, yes I certainly would expect them to provide a very close estimated height. I mean, look, if the speaker jumps up 5" we are dead. I certainly don't expect this but what possibly can be the harm in trying to obtain all the information possible? I'm trying to think of any contingency before I pass the check. As I said, my trusted friend says 99% and he was right there helping the owner make the measurements. I personally think it's a forgone conclusion. But as Apexorca says, unexpected issues can arise. You read Ivan's post. I'm going to receive one of the very first speakers. What if it malfunctions? I'm a little worried about this.

I really want this speaker. It's perfect for me. If you read the press release carefully, it sounded like the xvx wasn't fully completed at the time of the release. Surely, surely I will receive a finished product? I believe in Wilson Audio, in their integrity, and I don't want to hurt their feelings by asking this question but I certainly expect to receive a fully engineered and completed xvx. And they must supply an accurate estimated unspiked height based on my listening distance and ear height. I hope it's less not more than the stated unspiked height. Then we are good to go.

I will hear from my dealer on Monday or Tuesday.

[2fastdriving]

Unfortunately, I don't think a Wilson speaker will sound very good sitting on a mat. The spikes are an integral part of the design.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by 2fastdriving

Unfortunately, I don't think a Wilson speaker will sound very good sitting on a mat. The spikes are an integral part of the design.

That's not what I've heard directly from Wilson. I specifically asked this question. I made the point to them that there is nothing special about the Wilson spiking system, IMO. The spikes are extremely well made but in the end they are just spikes. Wilson agreed. I have a trusted source at Wilson who I have worked with for years. I am a "special needs" Wilson customer. I must be able to converse with them and I must say, Wilson is extremely responsive. I'm sure I'm driving them crazy, I have sent so many emails. Also, the speaker is typically placed using castors to move it to position for optimum sound. I have heard Wilsons on castors. They sounded great. I also asked about the adjustment of the upper modules. Lowering the speaker a couple of inches effectively raises the ear height a couple of inches. That's all. I confirmed this with Wilson. Also we will have enough clearance to use the spike in its lowest position if push comes to shove. These spikes are not going to dampen floor vibrations because as I said, there's nothing special about Wilson spikes. All the money is spent decoupling the upper modules from the floor. A castor is certainly not a spike. My Thor sets on a mat and the bass is fantastic. I wouldn't spike my Thor under any circumstances. If I hadn't confirmed these issues with Wilson in detail, we wouldn't have gotten this far. So I don't know what you are basing your statement on. I have a hardwood floor that is level and extremely solid. If this were carpet I wouldn't be doing this.

I owned a Genesis II years ago. The subwoofers were massive. They set in my corners. I noticed that they gradually moved over time because of the bass power and I would have to re-position them. My Thor doesn't move one iota on this mat and I don't believe the xvx will either. Wilson is totally aware of my intention to use a mat. They have given the ok, no reservations. The other thing I want to say is that I don't believe that Wilson is a company that just wants to sell a speaker. It is their extremely high integrity that I am counting on. When the owner came out and made the measurements although he said it wasn't necessary because of our long relationship, I took him back to my study and showed him the money setting there in the MM fund. This was because if the deal falls through, I wanted him to absolutely know the money was there. It's one thing to say it is. It's another to see it. I also told him at that time that I still would have to get the ok from my adviser to do it but that I thought he would give me a green light. If I didn't have great confidence in Wilson and in my dealer, forget it. I wouldn't even remotely consider this venture. I expect to be told the truth because I am acting in good faith. That's the way these deals are done.

Charles

[audioguy3107]

What is a "special needs" Wilson Customer?????

[crwilli]

Originally Posted by audioguy3107

What is a "special needs" Wilson Customer?????

I suspect someone who is spending 300 large on speakers and has the expected level of anxiety.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by crwilli

I suspect someone who is spending 300 large on speakers and has the expected level of anxiety.

It's a go!! Wilson has given their absolute blessing "Everyone at Wilson has approved!!!"

Direct quote from my dealer.

Now only specifics as to when to pass the check and sign contract. It's done!! I am so very very happy!!

Galaxy Grey with stainless steel trim. I owe Jim a lot for his suggestion to stay away from black. Order has been placed with Wilson. Black grill covers.

[Audio 1]

Awesome!!
My Alexia 2's are Galaxy Gray with the silver trim and I do love the color.