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Old 11-14-2011, 11:50 PM
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J...Unfortunately mosfets have a higher output impedance which results in more complex speaker matching....
What is the practical effect of that on the sound?
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:15 AM
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C-J mania for the past few days. I have some options on the table; time to sleep on it, and see what's still there in the morning.

Wish me sweet C-J dreams.
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What is the practical effect of that on the sound?
Higher output impedance means lower damping factor. The effect of this varies with speaker impedance curve but almost always results in less controled low frequencies. With electrostatics which have a very low impendance at the high frequencies this results in rolled off highs. With most electrostats this is actually a good thing since they tend to sound too bright in most rooms. The Motif and the Martin Logan CLS is a match made in heaven which I enjoyed for a few years.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:47 AM
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Ron is our C-J historian-in-residence!
Thanks PC I have been a CJ fan for many years and still repair some CJ gear here and there.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:07 AM
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Hi CD,
Glad to see you made it over here.

Told ya this was the best C-J forum around!

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There are other CJ forums out there. I don't believe it and haven't seen any.

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Old 11-28-2011, 11:56 PM
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Still working on my C-J quest. Had some close calls recently, and may still be working on a sweet deal; but I haven't been able to pull the trigger on anything just yet.

Remembering that I'm looking...primarily...for a 2250(a), or 2500(a); what are some channels available, to find used C-J...other than the obvious haunts? (AG, CAM, (fleec)eBay, AC, etc.)
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:57 PM
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Spearit Sound.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:19 AM
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Spearit Sound.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:54 AM
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Thanks guys. I see they have a healthy offering of C-J at the Spearit website; but no golden oldies like I'm looking for...lol.

Does the old stuff require a call?
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:27 AM
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CD, the key is patience. And perusing AG every day, just like scoring the right pair of Dyns. And one can only drive so hard a bargain on C-J stuff because it is in more demand than a lot of other brands; there are usually multiple offers on any notably good piece of gear, as you already have found out. C-J has considerable brand equity, just like Shunyata.

FWIW, MF2250s and MF2500s are actually pretty frequent on Audiogon, again patience and perusing every day is the key; it's like looking for that Koetsu Urushi Vermilion at just the right price, you have to be ready to pounce the day it appears.

C-J PV14s, Premier 14s and PV15s preamps are less frequent but do appear reasonably frequently.

Very likely the best "used" C-J preamp at AG median listing prices is the Premier 17, which generally sells for between $1800 and $2000. While this is $400-$500 more than the median prices of PV14s, Pr14s and PV15s, C-J buyers who know their sh*t know that at that $1800-$2000 price the Pr17 is hands-down the best preamp for "performance per dollar" going, and they tend to sell extremely quickly as a result.

Right now, there is a Premier 17 on AG for $2995, but the seller is on crack if he thinks it's going to sell at that price. OTOH, if he listed it at $1995, it would likely sell in a heartbeat.
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