May have to sell Ref40 due new disc player

[TOGA]

Hi, today I will have fresh 6550c installed in my 2000 hours Ref40.
$200 for a pair of ARC 6550c+ 3 month waranty.

However, I have a feeling that soon I may have to sell Ref40.
Don't want to, but I order new disc player already, and it happen
to have pre-amp built-in. from block diagram, I guess its internal
preamp cannot be bypass via XLR output, only RCA can do. So
there is no way to connect it to Ref40 balanced, without having
cascading volume control. I just hope that my new disc player
pre-amp section will be just as good as Ref40. also pre amp section
of my new source doesn't seem to have Processor/Theather bypass too.
Gonna be headache to integrate it into the current system.

However, before selling Ref40, I will take as much time as I need to
compare performance between various connection methods. Hopefully
in the near future ARC will make an even better one than Ref40, so that
I will not sorry too much to sell it.

Toga

[joeinid]

Hi Toga,

What cd player are you getting?

[Jerome W]

I wonder which cd player could have a preamp section as good as the REF40, except for a Burmester one....

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[TommyC]

Originally Posted by joeinid

Hi Toga,

What cd player are you getting?

+1.

It is highly unlikely any pre-amp section in a CD player will perform at the level of the Ref40. It may be close though.

[turntable]

I am pretty confident the ref40 will make better music than the cd player pre.

It is good you are going to listen to the differences first

[TOGA]

My new disc player, actually not really a disc player, is Burmester 111, and I found new information,from German version of block diagram posted in Burmester website, I may misunderstood the diagram,but for English version posted by Masterlu in Burmester forum, I am sure I can bypass internal volume control and still outputs thru XLR output. but with inverted phased. Still not sure about theater mode though, if 111 doesn't have it, I will be headache integrated surround processor to the system, in case I don't use Ref40.
I will see, between running thru Ref40 or 111 direct feed to Moon W7M which one is
better for my taste. If proved better direct feed, selling both Ref40+W7M will give me good $$$ to find my dream amps..

Toga

[Jerome W]

I knew it was a Burmester.

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[Jerome W]

Burmester makes world class electronics, but still I would be curious to hear your conclusions.

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[howiebrou]

I doubt that even the Burmester preamp section within a cdp will make music as good as the ref 40. You are, after all stuffing everything into one box.

[doggiehowser]

I tried feeding my Ayon CD5S which also has an analog preamp section to my ARC Ref5 and it just didn't sound good to my ears. So I can see where the OP is coming from.