Research papers indicate that SARS-CoV-2 may be a bioweapon

[PHC1]

https://youtu.be/_XkGChXp2qc

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile

Good post, thank you! I am sure of only one thing,...we will never know the absolute truth in our lifetime!

Not sure I want to either. It only seriously poisons and consumes what precious time we have left on this planet. Some things are better left alone. Ignorance is bliss they say... Everyone understands the world is not so simple but those who see everything in a positive light perhaps have a more fulfilling life overall?

[alkizz]

This idea is not far fetched.

The Chinese government is well known (globally) for IP theft and I say that with no malice to any person.

It's easy to see how some research was performed in the US (for whatever weird reason) and that research was illegally pirated and moved to China where things went haywire.

Hopefully I am not coming across in the wrong way with the above, if it's inappropriate I accept the consequences. While Stephen has a scientific expertise, mine is related to topics that give me insight into details around my second sentence.

[SCAudiophile]

Originally Posted by PHC1

Not sure I want to either. It only seriously poisons and consumes what precious time we have left on this planet. Some things are better left alone. Ignorance is bliss they say... Everyone understands the world is not so simple but those who see everything in a positive light perhaps have a more fulfilling life overall?

Spot on....great post!

[crwilli]

I have zero patience with this type of thread and no time to worry about whether or not this was a ‘created’ pandemic.

It might make a great Netflix series someday but that kind of speculation is not productive at all.

I see no value in this.

[ariess]

You gotta ask yourself whether this ever can be proven or disproven. When you realize it cannot you have to acknowledge it’s indistinguishable from fiction and let it go.

[nicoff]

Originally Posted by crwilli

I have zero patience with this type of thread and no time to worry about whether or not this was a ‘created’ pandemic.

It might make a great Netflix series someday but that kind of speculation is not productive at all.

I see no value in this.

I totally agree. IF this was right, we would have Congress declaring WWIII.
I think this is just another conspiracy theory.

[rnrmf1971]

I read the linked article back when it was published in February.

Consider that it is an opinion piece published in the NY Post and re-published on Marketwatch.

The author is a noted academic but it would be more convincing if there had been follow up to those ideas presented over 2 months ago.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by ariess

You gotta ask yourself whether this ever can be proven or disproven. When you realize it cannot you have to acknowledge it’s indistinguishable from fiction and let it go.

It's simply a hypothesis that I've developed from reading a number of research papers, Adam. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Standard Model is also a hypothesis that remains unproven and is problematical in a number of ways. Does this mean then, that the Standard Model is indistinguishable from fiction and we should let it go?

I'm not being argumentative here, I'm just reflecting on a number of scientific papers I've read and positing a hypothesis.

If anyone wants to read these papers for themselves, let me know. You can come to your own conclusions.

Personally, I find it odd that a research team that was presumably characterizing bat nCoVs to determine if their spike proteins RBDs can bind to human ACE2, actually went out of their way to deliberately genetically engineer one that could bind to human ACE2 and become quite pathogenic, if they were simply doing "surveillance."

Particulary when there was a team of scientists at UNC Chapel Hill was known for a fact to be doing "gain of function" research on highly pathogenic and highly lethal viruses.

This particular project was actually titled, "Generating Infectious Clones of Bat SARS-like CoV's"



Why are these guys genetically engineering new, unique, previously non-existent and highly infectious clones of Bat SARS-like CoV's if they were simply doing surveillance and characterization ofexisting bat coronaviruses?

I speak for anyone else, but that strikes me as particularly odd...

[nicoff]

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

It's simply a hypothesis that I've developed from reading a number of research papers, Adam. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Standard Model is also a hypothesis that remains unproven and is problematical in a number of ways. Does this mean then, that the Standard Model is indistinguishable from fiction and we should let it go?

I'm not being argumentative here, I'm just reflecting on a number of scientific papers I've read and positing a hypothesis.

If anyone wants to read these papers for themselves, let me know. Personally, I find it odd that a research team that was presumably characterizing bat nCoVs to determine if their spike proteins RBDs can bind to human ACE2, actually went out of their way to deliberately genetically engineer one that could bind to human ACE2 and become quite pathogenic, if they were simply doing "surveillance." I don't know if anyone else does, but personally, I find that odd.

Particulary when there was a team of scientists at UNC Chapel Hill was known for a fact to be doing "gain of function" research on highly pathogenic and highly lethal viruses.

Yeah, but you referred to a *psychic* as having predicted this pandemic before. That's why I am taking your hyphotesis with a HUGE grain of salt.