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Old 06-17-2019, 04:48 PM
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I have owned them for a year. The answer to the question is yes.

You have owned them. Have, like in the past?!
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I think that would have been 'had' .......
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:48 PM
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Gasp!!! That is scary (a la Count Floyd) --no more YG Sonja XVs? Yikes!

I still own them, listening right now to Supertramp, Crime of the Century.

There are pics on Boulder's Instagram page.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:07 AM
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Gasp!!! That is scary (a la Count Floyd) --no more YG Sonja XVs? Yikes!

I still own them, listening right now to Supertramp, Crime of the Century.

There are pics on Boulder's Instagram page.



Enjoy! Fantastic system!
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Old 06-21-2019, 04:43 AM
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I have owned them for a year. The answer to the question is yes.
They certainly got a great review but to say they are the "best". Nope. They are among the best. My Alexx/Thor combo will go much lower and will have at least as much dynamic range and as low distortion if not lower. There is no "best" speaker. It would be wonderful to see pics of your system on AA. I'm sure it's fantastic to see.

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Old 06-21-2019, 08:47 AM
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I had a long audition at the dealer with them powered by four Audionet Heisenberg monoblocks. Truly amazing soundstage, dynamics, finesse, layering and detail. World class statement speakers for sure. The only thing that was surprising was that even with the two bass towers, the bass was very articulate but not visceral. If I was buying, I would definitely invest in the YG subwoofers.

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Old 06-21-2019, 12:59 PM
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I had a long audition at the dealer with them powered by four Audionet Heisenberg monoblocks. Truly amazing soundstage, dynamics, finesse, layering and detail. World class statement speakers for sure. The only thing that was surprising was that even with the two bass towers, the bass was very articulate but not visceral. If I was buying, I would definitely invest in the YG subwoofers.

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Not to have visceral bass in a system like this?? One of the things you pay for in a Statement System is dynamic range in the bass. I could care less about a tweeter that goes to 50,000 Hz. How would it fare on the foot falls of T-Rex in the Telarc Great Fantasy Adventure Album? One of the real problems with acoustic suspension systems including powered subwoofers is their inability to truly produce as billed really low frequency material. These foot falls go down to 5 Hz. I have many CD's and albums that require marked dynamic range and output in the low bass below 20 Hz. The Alexx is great to about 25 Hz in my room. I don't have it setup for maximum low frequency response. It is impossible to play low frequency material through the Alexx that will distort its woofers which is exactly what I want. I have never experienced a CD or album that my Thor would not play at excellent level but it does require power and lots of it. The addition of subwoofers to the XV seems not an option, far too complex and unpredictable. I think that this is probably why Yg has not really ever been considered in the same company as Wilson, Magico, SF, Vandersteen, Rockport, I'm sure I'm leaving out some. It's the reason Magico IMO, added the Q-15 and Q-18 subs. However any acoustic suspension system including Magico is vulnerable to extremely low frequencies because of the gentle 12 dB per octave roll off below the resonance frequency of the cabinet. Ported systems have a 24 dB per octave roll off which means that below the resonance frequency the woofers are very immune to bottoming out as all sealed systems are prone to do.

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Old 06-21-2019, 08:35 PM
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Oh my! What strong opinions.

My prior speakers were Wilson XLFs with a Thor's Hammer -- I owned them for two years and X2S2 before that. They are great speakers and Wilson is a great company. I agree that Alexx are great speakers. That said:

In the same room with the same Boulder 3060 and everything else: IMO the YGXV are plainly better than the XLF/Thor combination -- with all types of music. All my friends, except one, who have heard them agree, to quote one review: "The others were good but these kick ass."
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:58 AM
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Oh my! What strong opinions.

My prior speakers were Wilson XLFs with a Thor's Hammer -- I owned them for two years and X2S2 before that. They are great speakers and Wilson is a great company. I agree that Alexx are great speakers. That said:

In the same room with the same Boulder 3060 and everything else: IMO the YGXV are plainly better than the XLF/Thor combination -- with all types of music. All my friends, except one, who have heard them agree, to quote one review: "The others were good but these kick ass."
Fast Eddy, I'm sure the XV is a wonderful speaker. It should be for the price and weight (1.3 tons of speaker). I always have to question how you move around 3 tons of speakers so easily to have this incredible audition. You have an incredible dealer. Was a moving company available? Just to setup and optimize an XLF/two Hammer system would take many hours. Did this listening session occur over many days? Did the Wilson folks have the opportunity to have a listen and have input? Wonder what they would have said? Were the speakers in separate listening rooms? What I am trying to say is that I wasn't born yesterday. I can tell you that the XLF/Hammers will move way more air than an XV system and play a lot louder with much lower distortion than an XV. The (8) XV woofers are 8.75" each as opposed to 4 ported dual spider 15" drivers of the Hammers, not to mention the ported 13 and 15 inch drivers of each XLF. You should post pics of your system and your previous system. But I am sure it looks and sounds fantastic. Methinks you may be laughing at me but I will take you seriously up to this point.

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