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Old 08-18-2011, 10:13 PM
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Default I love my MC601's but I love my Burmester 911 MK3 a little more ......

I really don't know how to put into words what I'm hearing. I give a lot of credit those members (especially Serge, Dan and Jeff) who can describe what they hear when writing equipment reviews. If I had purchased the MC601's before the 911 mk3, I would be a happy camper and not go chasing windmills. But when I put the 911 back into the mix, same ancillaries just different amps, I find the music a little more open and 3D with a weightier presentation. There just seems to be a little more information or separation. To be fair I am using the 077 preamp. Is it a better match to the 911, probably. I don't know for sure if a top McIntosh preamp on the MC601's would be a fairer test. Flame suit on.

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Old 08-18-2011, 10:26 PM
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:43 PM
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Joe, the autoformers giveth' and the autoformers taketh'....

That the 911 sounds more open and three dimensional is no surprise. Weightier though? If that's what you hear with it by comparison to the 601s, I am very impressed. The 601s and other McIntosh autoformer amps may not be the kings of resolution, air and slam but they are no lightweights when it comes to tonal qualities and balance. The 601s didn't strike me as being lean or lightweight. Faster, more agile around transients than before, yes.

If you find the Burmester to be in good synergy with your speakers, in that you don't get tired of listening and only want more, you have arrived.

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Old 08-18-2011, 10:59 PM
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Maybe what I sensing as "weightier" is a slightly more tube-like puffiness from my Nola Micro speakers on the 911 as opposed to a slightly less round bass on the 601's. I have a feeling, because my speakers were designed with tubes in the equation, they may respond to the 911 a little better. I'll have to experiment with other speakers and see if my theory holds true.

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Maybe what I sensing as "weightier" is a slightly more tube-like puffiness from my Nola Micro speakers on the 911 as opposed to a slightly less round bass on the 601's. I have a feeling, because my speakers were designed with tubes in the equation, they may respond to the 911 a little better. I'll have to experiment with other speakers and see if my theory holds true.

Joe in order to really get the feel of which amp you like more. You need to bring another 911 into the mix then compare 601 amp to 911 amp. Then instead of liking the 911 a little more your tune will change to liking the 911 a lot more.

Oh well so much for Ivan buying your 911 and me your 077.
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Joe in order to really get the feel of which amp you like more. You need to bring another 911 into the mix then compare 601 amp to 911 amp. Then instead of liking the 911 a little more your tune will change to liking the 911 a lot more.

Oh well some much for Ivan buying your 911 and me your 077.

Ha! Now that would be something, another 911 .

Didn't know there was interest in my gear Hmmmm.


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Old 08-18-2011, 11:49 PM
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Joe, the autoformers giveth' and the autoformers taketh'....

That the 911 sounds more open and three dimensional is no surprise. Weightier though? If that's what you hear with it by comparison to the 601s, I am very impressed. The 601s and other McIntosh autoformer amps may not be the kings of resolution, air and slam but they are no lightweights when it comes to tonal qualities and balance. ...


I think this is even true of Bryston v. McIntosh. At my local dealer, the Bryston strack shows more open/3d/sparkle, but McIntosh has the tone and weight that I crave.
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I think this is even true of Bryston v. McIntosh. At my local dealer, the Bryston strack shows more open/3d/sparkle, but McIntosh has the tone and weight that I crave.
I would agree with that to a point indeed.......i find Bryston tends to over analyze the music........while the Mcintosh sounds more natural/organic
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but McIntosh has the tone and weight that I crave.
Agreed, McIntosh has great tone and weight.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:06 PM
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Joe...try switching speaker cables between 4 & 8 ohm taps on the MC601's with your Nola's.
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