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Old 08-15-2019, 08:48 PM
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The new C2700 will no doubt be another great PreAmp from Binghamton.

I could do without Mc-DAC functionality however. They lost me with the D-100.
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I’ll bet it will sound great. Did anyone notice that the phono specs improved?
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They just did, the C70.
Let me rephrase - will McIntosh ever build another tube preamp without a DAC?
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there is the c1100 already.
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Let me rephrase - will McIntosh ever build another tube preamp without a DAC?


The C70 is a tube preamp without a DAC that was just released less than eight months ago. It replaced the C22 III.
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"They need to make a DAC that’s just a DAC like the MDA700 was. No volume control, just input switching."

or this... with just the DA2...

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or this... with just the DA2...





For the price, it should come with a DA2.
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"They need to make a DAC that’s just a DAC like the MDA700 was. No volume control, just input switching."

or this... with just the DA2...

I'm not going to do an exhaustive review to find a DAC that cannot function as a preamp, i.e. be directly connected to a power amplifier but they are not very many. For example, the Vivaldi can, according to the OM, be directly connected to the power amplifier. The big knob on the front panel is a volume control. "Just a DAC" doesn't really exist anymore. Most DAC's function very well as pre's and if you don't do vinyl, in the Mac lineup the Vivaldi equivalent would be the D1100, which is what I own.

I'm sure that having made this statement, someone will list 15 current DAC's with no volume control.

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Curious if anyone here has picked up a C2700 and has initial impressions of it. I may be checking out a used C2600 and am considering the C2700 because I could use the upgraded DAC and improved phono stage. My budget does not allow for C1100 + DAC + amp at this time (used 2600 + 462 is what I am leaning towards right now).

Reviews of the C2700 are virtually nonexistent so far. Currently have a MA252 that I am enjoying, except I need more inputs, a DAC (tried the PS Audio Direcstream and am returning), and ultimately more power for my speakers.
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Curious if anyone here has picked up a C2700 and has initial impressions of it. I may be checking out a used C2600 and am considering the C2700 because I could use the upgraded DAC and improved phono stage. My budget does not allow for C1100 + DAC + amp at this time (used 2600 + 462 is what I am leaning towards right now).

Reviews of the C2700 are virtually nonexistent so far. Currently have a MA252 that I am enjoying, except I need more inputs, a DAC (tried the PS Audio Direcstream and am returning), and ultimately more power for my speakers.
I have owned a C2700 for a little over a month and it is mated with an MC462. It replaced a C2500 so I can not offer quite the comparison you are asking for. I can tell you the the C2700 outclasses the C2500 sonically in every area. The C2700 has improved low bass response both in the phono stage as well as the high level stage and the DA2 is superior to the DAC in the C2500. Any source is improved with the C2700, so the improvements (clarity, depth of image, neutrality, etc.) in the high level stage are a big deal, too. The gain in reproducing classical music is pretty profound, actually.

The C2700 is designed and intended to be a control preamp, so it of necessity should have tone controls, a DAC, etc. IMHO, I do not see a downside to having the DA2 on board, particularly since it can be upgraded for future improvements. By inference, because the C2700 handily supersedes the C2500, it should also supersede the C2300, which is derived from the same developmental generation as the C2500 and does not have a DAC. According to McIntosh, the C2700 phono stages have an 80 dB S/N vs. a 75 dB S/N for the C2600 and the new DA2 is more capable. If you can swing the extra coin, I suggest that you go with the latest effort. YMMV.

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