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Old 10-26-2017, 12:56 AM
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Look into the Rythmik F12SE. You need to buy your subs, if only buying one set, based on their primary usage. The design principals for HT (special effects) subs and Music subs are different. Never owned JL home subs but have owned most of the other major players like SVS,HSU, REL, Vandersteen.
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I had JLA Fathom's that I used with Sonus Faber Guarneri Memento's (monitor sized speakers) back in the day. First added one and then another and the results were jaw dropping after dialing everything in. Way better bass than any full range speaker that I could have used in that room. Highly recommend the JLA subs.

The icing on the cake for me was the Bryston 10-B sub crossover that really allowed to dial everything in to perfection not that I am saying it is absolutely necessary but it was the finishing touch.
I am using two JLF112 subs. with SF GM speakers in my HT, crossover is in the MX120. Agree, much better bass than a 3 way speaker and superb imaging
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I wonder why so many subs don't do well below 20 hz. Internet direct companies like Deep Sea, Funk Audio, and Seaton go down to 10 hz. For music it shouldn't matter, the lowest hz in symphony is 16 hz, same with organs. But movies go down to 7 hz in extreme cases.
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I wonder why so many subs don't do well below 20 hz. Internet direct companies like Deep Sea, Funk Audio, and Seaton go down to 10 hz. For music it shouldn't matter, the lowest hz in symphony is 16 hz, same with organs. But movies go down to 7 hz in extreme cases.
Hi Mouse - All else being equal, halving the frequency quadruples the distance the woofer has to travel to create the same SPL. So going from 20 Hz to 10 Hz causes the displacement to increase 4x!

A 12" woofer will move about 1.5" one way, 3" peak to peak to make 105 dB at 20 Hz in a medium sized room. This is the limit of what most conventional subs can do. If you drop the frequency to 10 Hz, you get a one way excursion of 6"! Unless you go to an unconventional motorized sub (Seaton) you just can't get there.

Drop the level to about 90 dB and a normal sub can do it.

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Mouse. If you have the budget, I would do this: Get one REL 25 for now. One well positioned will sound really good. When the audio funds replete, get a pair of JL audio 113's. Connect the 25 high level only. Connect the JL's to your processor. Only use JL's for HT LFE. I own both, and REL is far better for 2 channel, and JL is far better for HT. the 25 def. is a beautiful sub and has the WAF. The JL's have a beautiful finish, but they are basically a box.

If you want to talk more about sub's PM me. I've done tons of research and listened to many, many subs.
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Your room will have many peaks and nulls in it. You should do the subwoofer crawl test for accurate sub placement; it's results are remarkable and will give you the best bass response in your listening position.




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Which subs work well for BOTH music and home theater, and look beautiful enough to pass the wife test.

I had my hopes up for the REL No. 25 but it seems to be underpowered compared to much lesser costing subs, I haven't heard it so I can't speak to it's quality. Another member here said it's not good for HT, but then said he might get 4 of them.

I've heard good things about Funk Audio, but I haven't heard much about them here. What's your opinion? It's not like I can demo it and it's made to order.

The room is about 1,000 sq ft and has a large hall connected to it.
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masterful,
would you recommend the e series over the fathom?
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