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Old 04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
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A hi fi shop here in Dallas told me that they would become a dealer for Lamm-I'm still waiting. Those Lamm's that you have Serge look very nice. They remind me of early Mark Levinson-late 70's early 80's. That was state of the art back then- then came along Harmon International.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:21 PM
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I definately have to say those amps look extremely burley, they remind me of the John Curl Parasound amp from years ago, but only the first 10 W were in pure class A, then it switched to A/B as to not melt people's processors.

It was an AWESOME amp when paired with ML, and I'm sure LAMM is on the completely next level in pure Class-A
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:35 PM
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I definately have to say those amps look extremely burley, they remind me of the John Curl Parasound amp from years ago, but only the first 10 W were in pure class A, then it switched to A/B as to not melt people's processors.

It was an AWESOME amp when paired with ML, and I'm sure LAMM is on the completely next level in pure Class-A
Yeah, there is a bit more going on. The single triode in each amp drives the output MOSFETS in a very linear way, since tubes/triodes excel at that. This way the signal is preserved as much as possible and the output stages are biased class A to stay true to the signal as well and not have any crossover distortion of class A/B biased circuits. Since the amps don't have any global feedback, the harmonic content of the music is preserved very well. Their preamps are also all class A with either a fully tubed topology or tubed regulated solid state output. Together, they put on quite a show when it comes to music.

There is nothing toobey about their preamps, where they bloom and billow is the 3 dimensionality and soundstage. The palpability factor is rather impressive. There is no added coloration or "warmth" from the tubes in the preamp and there is no need for it. The amps/preamp combination has just the right amount of weight, scale, impact and the tonality seems spot on to my ears. Like I mentioned before, they are not warm and fuzzy sounding nor are they lean and etched, just right! Seductive not for their forgiving and soft nature which they don't have but seductive for their harmonic content and a natural, relaxed, harmonically rich presentation.

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Old 04-06-2009, 11:42 PM
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Yeah, there is a bit more going on. The single triode in each amp drives the output MOSFETS in a very linear way, since tubes and triodes excel at that. This way the signal is preserved as much as possible and the output stages are biased class A to stay true to the signal as well and not have any crossover distortion of class A/B biased circuits. Since the amps don't have any global feedback, the harmonic content of the music is preserved very well. Their preamps are also all class A with either a fully tubed topology or tubed regulated solid state output. Together, they put on quite a show when it comes to music.

There is nothing toobey about their preamps, where they bloom and billow is the 3 dimensionality and soundstage. The palpability factor is rather impressive. There is no added coloration or "warmth" from the tubes in the preamp and there is no need for it. The amps/preamp combination has just the right amount of weight, scale, impact and the tonality seems spot on to my ears. Like I mentioned before, they are not warm and fuzzy sounding nor are they lean and etched, just right! Seductive not for their forgiving and soft nature which they don't have but seductive for their harmonic content and a natural, relaxed, harmonically rich presentation.
Hi Serge,

There's a newer version of the preamp LL2.1 coming. And just when you thought this is it huh!

Nonetheless, the Lamms are great. Its just I was foolish back then (and maybe even today) that I gave them up! Oh well, progress IF I may say so ... to myself (as a consolation).

And its so good to read your thread again!

Cheers!
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:50 PM
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Hi Serge,

There's a newer version of the preamp LL2.1 coming. And just when you thought this is it huh!

Nonetheless, the Lamms are great. Its just I was foolish back then (and maybe even today) that I gave them up! Oh well, progress IF I may say so ... to myself (as a consolation).

And its so good to read your thread again!

Cheers!
Yes, the new LL2.1 offers a 15dB gain reduction switch which would probably work even better for the high sensitivity Lamm amps. A little strange that Vladimir designed his preamps to be a little less flexible with his own amps first but a better fit/universal preamp and now has realized that maybe he should make it a better match for his own products. I don't have any real reason to upgrade to it just yet since I find the volume pots adequate although not as fine stepped as the superb fine controls on say the Ayre KX-R or the C500P preamps.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:56 PM
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Serge

Will we get to see your final comparison of the 3 fine pre-amps you were working on last week? I am interested.
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Serge.......Are you still planning the three preamp shootout? I was just getting into that when the sledge hammer dropped.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:00 AM
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Do I have to make my signature invisible when I post on the Lamm forum? Lol
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:09 AM
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Serge.......Are you still planning the three preamp shootout? I was just getting into that when the sledge hammer dropped.
What??!!!

You are going to smashed up the C1000 preamps? God forbid!

Tell you what, pack and ship them to me and I will gladly pay for the postage, ahem sorry, freight charges!
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:16 AM
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Yep, I plan on posting my findings soon. I've spent a good amount of time with each preamp taking notes and listening to a great deal of various music. I really had no intentions of posting it over there where it got kicked into obscurity where no one was really interested in it. Who cares what an $18k preamp sounds like when someone found a 35 year old preamp on the curb over by the trash. Right???


No Dan, you don't have to hide your signature. If you like Lamm, great, if not that's ok too. We all have various gear that turns us on the most. I still like McIntosh a lot as well.

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