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Old 07-13-2019, 04:10 PM
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Default SUBWoofer Upgrade: Stereo REL G2 vs JLA Fathom f113v2

Hi everyone,

I have been a happy REL user for the last 3 years but had to repair my Rel 3 times over the last 4 years. I also feel i can use a stereo configuration given my tri-amped setup.

I narrowed down my sub upgrade to:

Option A: Adding another Rel G2(found a slightly used one with a new driver)

Option B: Going with 2 JLA Fathom F113v2 or F112v2

My room dimensions are 17Lx15Wx11H

Setup:
Speakers: B&W 802D
Pre: C2500/MX122
CrossOver: MEN 220
Amps: 275 mk IV x 2 + MC205 for low and rears

I will be most grateful for your recommendations / experience.
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Old 07-13-2019, 04:58 PM
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I would suggest selling the oft repaired G2 and either go with a pair of REL 212SE or either pair of JL Fathom.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:26 PM
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I would suggest selling the oft repaired G2 and either go with a pair of REL 212SE or either pair of JL Fathom.


Thanks

I was told that the 212SE May be too big - anyone heard REL S/5 - a pair of them may also be considered.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:43 PM
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It is my opinion that people, in general, are afraid of overloading a room with bass which scares them away from big subs. I understand why. But there is a gain knob. I know that compared to the pair of REL B2 I owned, the JL Audio f110v2 absolutely mopped the floor with REL with respect to sheer output. A pair of f112 and certainly f113 will be on par with REL212 for sheer output. The JL subs are monsters, in a good way.
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C
Amp: McIntosh MC601 (3), MC501 (2)
Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N10 8TB, Oppo 203
Analog: McIntosh MT10, Rega RP10 w/ Apheta 2
Signal cables: Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Transparent Ref XL (MM2) interconnects
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Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Hurricane power cords (5), Shunyata Alpha HC (5), Audioquest NRG Edison outlets, Furutech outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel
Speakers: Dynaudio Contour 60, Contour 30, Contour 25C, Sub 6 (2)
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:46 PM
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FWIW, my room is a little bigger than yours, 22 x 15 1/2 x 10. John Hunter, owner of REL, recommended a pair 212SE for a combination hi end 2 channel and multichannel AV setup.
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Analog: McIntosh MT10, Rega RP10 w/ Apheta 2
Signal cables: Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Transparent Ref XL (MM2) interconnects
Digital cables: Wireworld Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU, and USB
Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Hurricane power cords (5), Shunyata Alpha HC (5), Audioquest NRG Edison outlets, Furutech outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel
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Old 07-13-2019, 06:29 PM
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I would stick with the F113's for sure... I have a total of 5 of them throughout the house and are a good fit for the size room you are using.
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I would stick with the F113's for sure... I have a total of 5 of them throughout the house and are a good fit for the size room you are using.
thank you for sharing your experience... do you have them on all the time or signal sensing?

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Old 07-13-2019, 10:14 PM
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thank you for sharing your experience... do you have them on all the time or signal sensing?
I used to have them "off" by default, then would walk over and turn them "on" when I wanted to use them. Having said this, I have since switched them over to signal sensing and they all work perfectly in that config (and its way more convenient).
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Old 07-13-2019, 10:49 PM
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I use two f112s and a cr-1 and have all the bass I could ever want in a pretty big room.
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:26 PM
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So I just got my 2 JLA fathom f113v2s - I want to get the best connection and it seems the best may be going from the men 220 lows into a left and right balance into the fathoms? That way I can get both HT and 2 channel.
Anyone see a problem with this?
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