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Old 11-03-2013, 05:48 PM
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the line has been drawn at 8 components.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:18 PM
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Don't forget the R1's
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:20 PM
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Don't forget the R1's
And the wireworld platinum

Wireworld needs to ramp up the production
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:15 PM
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I am using an Accuphase DG-38 unit for a few good years now and IMO it is a must have unit for any reference system. When dialled in properly (which unfortunately is not trivial with the DG-38 and probably also with the DG-48) it yield spectacular results, i.e. holographic stereo image (on the recordings that contains 3d information of course) and significantly improved bass.

Like with any other room correction system it is best to not abuse it (e.g. place one speaker on the balcony and the other one in your basement and expect it to do wonders). Speakers position should be optimised as best as possible before running the set up procedure.

Compare to other room correction systems, e.g. Audyssey, Accuphase ones are very expensive and seemed to be less advanced, e.g. they are unable to manage subwoofers. However, since I have a full Accuphase system and since I was always happy with the results I have obtained with my DG-38, I was never tempted to try a different solution.

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Old 11-11-2013, 10:07 PM
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NVP, did you are that up and run it flat or did you do more of a custom setup? I have the DG48 and went through the setup and I had a 8db spike at 31 and a 6 db dip at around 36. It corrected this and the bass is much better and the soundstage seemed to be much more focused. I have heard that the engineers at Accuphase never run it flat. But other than listening I don't know what curve to go for. Just curious how you did it.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:25 PM
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nvp.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:27 PM
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I confirmed again today, the DG58 is available for immediate shipment.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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baskinshaw, DG-38 offers three different procedures for the room correction function:

Voicing A - compensation with a target curve, e.g flat.

Voicing B - compensation with auto generated target curve.

Voicing C - compensation using the characteristics of the speakers

I was able to obtain good results only when using the second method, i.e. Voicing B (in the Accuphase manual). The goal of the auto-generated target curve is to make the two speakers have at the listening position responses that are as similar as possible (both in frequency and in loudness). This yields a very good stereo image and soundstage, but in my room leaves quite a few “hills and valleys” below 100 Hz. I handle these manually, i.e. tame down the frequencies for which constructive interferences occurs in my room and/or boost up the ones where destructive interference occurs.

Except for the bass management (which as mentioned still requires some manual manipulation) I find this method very effective. Regarding, the other two methods, IMO they are useless for most users. One really needs to know what he is doing when using Voicing C (as the instruction in the Accuphase manual very brief), whereas attempting to obtain a flat response in most room will suck the life out of the music (I believe that even Accuphase does not recommend this method.)


jdandy, thanks for the welcome!

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Old 11-13-2013, 03:43 PM
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With my totally positive experience with the Deqx hdp-4 , DSP and eq done correctly is wonderful if you have issues in the bass region.

I am sure the Accuphase is another example of it done correctly
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:39 PM
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Thanks. I have found that in my room with my Raidho D3's it is almost a necessity to have the DG48. I have a 6 db spike around the 36 range and a 4 db dip around 40. We corrected this manually and I cannot listen to my system now without the EQ turned on. Bass is no longer boomy and vocals are crystal clear. All instruments are better focused.
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