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Old 03-21-2017, 11:21 PM
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[QUOTE=KMC45;838046]Monitor Audio laid back.[/QUOTE

It depends on your perspective. Prior to the PL500's, I didn't like Monitor Audio, because I submit they were to forward. My PL500's are connected to all Jeff Rowland gear and Rowland is known for being on the neutral to the slightly dark side of neutral. In addition, my room is well treated. Compared to the Wilson's and Aerial's I had the PL500's are neutral to "my ears." Although the same room, to be fair both the Wilson's and Aerial's were with very different equipment.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:09 PM
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No speaker is perfect and I assure you some will be critical of the PL500's. To my ears the PL500's are chameleon like, changing with every recording...if the recording is bright, it will have some bite, good recordings sound good, great recordings sound great, bad recordings sound bad. The sound doesn't come at you like some speakers and they aren't laid back. They are detailed, open, dynamic(not as dynamic as Wilson's) and very, very musical to my ears in my system/room.

I had a couple people that I met on a different forum come to my house. Both brought their own music. One guy thought the PL500's were too laid back and the other guy stated, "at times they had too much bite."
Thanks Ricjor1. That sounds quite good to me; a speaker that shows you what's in the recording.

Now I am waiting for the home demo, counting the days!
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:36 PM
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No problem. All that being said, you may hear things differently. What other speakers are you considering?
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:14 PM
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No problem. All that being said, you may hear things differently. What other speakers are you considering?
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I found your description of the PL 500 very accurate and it mirrors what I heard.

The 500 has an authoritative sound in my vieuw, also due to the three-dimensional nature of the speaker, which I liked very much from the beginning I heard them at the dealer's showroom.

For that reason I am considering only the PL500 from the speakers I heard at this moment and I heard a lot, more or less all the big names we all know.

One of the very few I want to hear yet is the new Yamaha NS5000, which received very positive remarks, no revieuw published yet as far as I know.

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I have owned several speakers and had a great opportunity to hear many more 2 years ago while attending RMAF. I'm finally done with speakers. Not because the PL500's are perfect or the "best", but they do so many things so well. 30K is expensive to me, but in the crazy high-end speaker market, the PL500's are almost a bargain.

What did the dealer use for electronics to drive the PL500's?
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Old 03-22-2017, 07:11 PM
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I have the PL100, PL200, PL300, and PLInWall speakers.
I would love to hear how people compare the PL500 to the older PL300s.
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Old 03-23-2017, 12:38 PM
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I have owned several speakers and had a great opportunity to hear many more 2 years ago while attending RMAF. I'm finally done with speakers. Not because the PL500's are perfect or the "best", but they do so many things so well. 30K is expensive to me, but in the crazy high-end speaker market, the PL500's are almost a bargain.

What did the dealer use for electronics to drive the PL500's?
Ricjor1,

I really don't remember which electronics were used, not so common used brands but decent and the best in shop I suppose. They were especially brought in for the show, some 6 months ago.

I think by a wide margin not as good as my own Krell 400E/ARC ref5SE, Sony cd hopefully soon to be replaced with Esoteric K1/K01X or the likes.

I have to pay around 15K Euro for the pair of PL500's, so that's a real bargain.
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I thought I would follow-up my earlier comments since I received a JL Audio F112 subwoofer. I've had the PL500 IIs with an SVS SB16 Ultra and the JL F110. I don't want to exaggerate, but the F112 has added detail and improved the overall sound to a degree that I just don't understand. This hobby is crazy...no matter what I have, occasionally I get a new component that takes me to a new level. I don't think the PL500's are bass deficient, but boy does the F112 make them sound better!
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:04 PM
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I thought I would follow-up my earlier comments since I received a JL Audio F112 subwoofer. I've had the PL500 IIs with an SVS SB16 Ultra and the JL F110. I don't want to exaggerate, but the F112 has added detail and improved the overall sound to a degree that I just don't understand. This hobby is crazy...no matter what I have, occasionally I get a new component that takes me to a new level. I don't think the PL500's are bass deficient, but boy does the F112 make them sound better!
Congratulations! Good to know that the F112 works well in combination with PL500.
Certainly worth to look at it once the PL 500 is in my room.
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Monitor Audio laid back.[/QUOTE It depends on your perspective. Prior to the PL500's, I didn't like Monitor Audio, because I submit they were to forward. My PL500's are connected to all Jeff Rowland gear and Rowland is known for being on the neutral to the slightly dark side of neutral. In addition, my room is well treated. Compared to the Wilson's and Aerial's I had the PL500's are neutral to "my ears." Although the same room, to be fair both the Wilson's and Aerial's were with very different equipment.
So I had the opportunity to listen to the Monitor Audio PL500 mk2 in my own room for 2 weeks, thanks to generous efforts made by the MA Importer and my dealer, for free. As expected I found MA 500 considerable better sounding than at the dealer's shop, thankfully, also as I have a preference for a tube pre and ss power amp as at my home. Holographic, controlled, extended, lots of layers, detailed, open, naturalness comes in my mind to describe the sound. Built quality is second to none and the speaker has a splendour appearance. The combined virtues and the way they are exposed made me placed to order my pair, delivery planned later this month. I am very happy with this, as I have heard many beautiful speakers, most however, in the end, didn't make it for me. An enjoyable but not easy journey has come at an end, for at least this moment.

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