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Old 09-07-2017, 05:14 PM
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Isoacoustics knows a thing or two about speaker isolation. At RMAF 2016 I heard an amazing demonstration of their new GAIA isolation feet. In the demo there were two pairs of Focal speakers, one set with the feet and one set without the feet. Each speaker pair was the same distance between Left and Right. Everyone in the room was amazed at the difference. I saw speakers in other rooms with these same isolation feet. Worth considering.
I've had the same kind of experience with a CD player supported by Nordost TC Sort cones; with the demonstration concluded, it had the small room of 15 or 20 people picking their jaws up off the carpet.

I do believe in these devices but deem it's not for every piece. The more resonant a device, the more these isolators bring a positive change to them. Having said that, some devices such as speakers (more so than a CD player) are designed to control resonance to a great deal already & use of these devices on them can negatively affect their signature.

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Old 09-07-2017, 06:09 PM
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I do believe in these devices but deem it's not for every piece. The more resonant a device, the more these isolators bring a positive change to them. Having said that, some devices such as speakers (more so than a CD player) are designed to control resonance to a great deal already & use of these devices on them can negatively affect their signature.

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Actually, Stillpoints recommends starting with the speakers as this is where the biggest gains are to be had. This also mirrors my personal experience; putting Ultra SS feet on my speakers was a profound improvement.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:45 PM
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Actually, Stillpoints recommends starting with the speakers as this is where the biggest gains are to be had. This also mirrors my personal experience; putting Ultra SS feet on my speakers was a profound improvement.
Of course they would -- aren't they the most expensive device they sell?

As I mentioned, some gain with speaker placement and some don't -- it's speaker manufacturer specific, IMO.

Glad it worked out well for you.

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Old 09-07-2017, 07:21 PM
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Of course they would -- aren't they the most expensive device they sell?

As I mentioned, some gain with speaker placement and some don't -- it's speaker manufacturer specific, IMO.

Glad it worked out well for you.

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Actually, they are 2nd from the bottom of their line.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:53 PM
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Actually, they are 2nd from the bottom of their line.
We're not connecting somewheres -- at MD for instance, Ultra 6's w/base in silver are $939 each retail ($899 no base), and Ultra 5's in silver are $699 each retail (black $749) & 8 are needed for speakers.

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Installed a set of SS Ultras in Black (Purchased Here) on my Daedalus Orpheus. They were a revelation, didn't expect the improvement. My system is on the second floor so it needed some isolation help. The bass is more accurate and the highs are more crisp, much more detail. Instruments are better separated too. Eventually Ill move up to the Ultra 5s under the speakers and move the SSs to my tube amps, no rush though.

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Old 09-15-2017, 12:48 AM
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Isoacoustics knows a thing or two about speaker isolation. At RMAF 2016 I heard an amazing demonstration of their new GAIA isolation feet. In the demo there were two pairs of Focal speakers, one set with the feet and one set without the feet. Each speaker pair was the same distance between Left and Right. Everyone in the room was amazed at the difference. I saw speakers in other rooms with these same isolation feet. Worth considering.
I bought 2 sets. Dave Morrison, the owner, was extremely helpful with my questions and I was able to help him with some thread size info. It is a good product and made some serious differences. But Stillpoints are good too.
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Well I've just replaced the spikes on my B&W 802's with some ultra SS stillpoints and despite the positive reviews, I was still doubtful that I would hear much of a difference given they are just speaker feet right!

Well there is no question in my mind that these little babies do work as I'm hearing more resolution and better balance and control across the speakers.

Thanks to Ivan for looking after me with a great deal!! I've also got a set of minis which will probably go under my Esoteric K-01X but I wanted to hear the speakers in isolation first to hear any differences - now I can look forward to a little bit more SQ once I put these under the Esoteric!
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