The "obvious tweeter" Solution

[GreginNH1]

Originally Posted by Indytown

Best way is to face them to one another about an inch apart, one speaker out of phase and let them play continuous for 5 to 6 days at various volume levels and different types of music.

Thanks Indytown, I will try that!

[all2ears]

Thanks for all the input - To catch up:

The Revel Salon 2 is a 4 way driver set up - (1) 1" Beryllium Tweeter - (1) each of a Titanium 4" and also a 6 1/2' midrange and (3) Titanium 8" woofers - They cross over at 150Hz, 575Hz, 2.3kHz - I can get down to a very strong 40Hz in my room and then cross over to a Velodyne DD10" sub .... the sub is mostly for starship engine rumble

The B & W cross over at 350Hz ... that puts the bottom frequencies for male speaking vocals in the woofers - Not a big deal except for Darth Vader and James Earl Jones - The tweeter crosses at 4kHz .... that gives the extra "upper end air" that Art mentioned - 2kHz equates to miles in audio measurements

Wilson Sasha's on the other hand cross over at a solid 125Hz and an amazing 12.5 kHz .... that's what gives them that super midrange and those three dimensional highs - Great for music but bright for movies on my ear (Art I shared your Alexia suggestion with my wife and she has put you on the Ivan list ... for safety have a neighbor start your car for the next few weeks)

Anyway I'm off to give the 802 D2 a demo today - I'm not looking for them to be better than the Revels ...... I'm looking for the next speaker I can bring home and live with happily for a few years - You never really know a speaker until you have it in your life day in and day out - Experience is the most fun

[all2ears]

Originally Posted by GreginNH1

Slightly hot treble is an understatement! I can't wait for my new speakers to get broken in. 20 hours thus far and still not much by way of improvement. Maybe I'll just leave them on for the next week. Maybe I'm too impatient!

Greg - Stereophile makes a few terrific test CD discs - Disc #1 sequences tones from 200 Hz down to 20 Hz and Disc #2 does an articulation test from 20 Hz to 20 kHz .... there are a bunch other tracks too with bass and drum solos, jazz bands etc

I make a demo disc of about a half dozen tracks, crank the volume up and put my player on repeat - The test tones give your speakers a full range work out and the musical tracks provide a reference point to evaluate break in progress - It's kind of like uncorking a bottle of wine, letting it breathe and doing taste sips and seeing it open up ... except you fill your ears instead of a glass

The discs cost $8 to $12 (forget Amazon ... they want $25) - We can't post direct links but if you google Stereophile Test Discs look for #1 and #2

Hope that helps and please keep us undated on the break in progress

[Douglas]

I listened to the Sasha's today, with Pass Labs 100.8 mono blocks, and MSB analog DAC. Sounded great with gobsmacking bass, and immense power handling. The tweeter was very hot however, and just too bright for me

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by Douglas

I listened to the Sasha's today, with Pass Labs 100.8 mono blocks, and MSB analog DAC. Sounded great with gobsmacking bass, and immense power handling. The tweeter was very hot however, and just too bright for me

Which version of Sasha's?

[Douglas]

Originally Posted by Still-One

Which version of Sasha's?

It was Version 1. I am not sure if the room contributed as the listening chair was against the wall, with no damping on the wall behind the listening chair.

[Venere]

For me, the obvious solution to the "obvious tweeter" problem has always been to buy speakers that use silk dome tweeters. They just sound more natural to me. Every metal dome tweeter I've heard has called attention to itself, and if I understand the tech correctly B&Ws diamond tweeter is aluminum at heart. I find it interesting that Wilson is gradually replacing all their beryllium tweeters with what is essentially a pretty basic silk dome. Also, Magico has clearly toned down their older tweeter with a warmer-sounding tweeter (regardless of the fancy tech explanation they give for their new diamond coating process). It seems that many folks are discovering what Sonus Faber and Vienna Acoustics buyers have known for a long time..silk dome tweeters simply sound pleasant and natural, like real music.

[2fastdriving]

Originally Posted by Venere

For me, the obvious solution to the "obvious tweeter" problem has always been to buy speakers that use silk dome tweeters. They just sound more natural to me. Every metal dome tweeter I've heard has called attention to itself, and if I understand the tech correctly B&Ws diamond tweeter is aluminum at heart. I find it interesting that Wilson is gradually replacing all their beryllium tweeters with what is essentially a pretty basic silk dome. Also, Magico has clearly toned down their older tweeter with a warmer-sounding tweeter (regardless of the fancy tech explanation they give for their new diamond coating process). It seems that many folks are discovering what Sonus Faber and Vienna Acoustics buyers have known for a long time..silk dome tweeters simply sound pleasant and natural, like real music.

Agreed. The wilson silk dome could never be described as hot. So if you're looking in the that price range, definitely listen to the Sasha 2, or even Sabrina.

[2fastdriving]

Oh and I forgot, if you loved the Sasha, you can tame the tweeter with different resistors.

[GreginNH1]

Originally Posted by all2ears

Greg - Stereophile makes a few terrific test CD discs - Disc #1 sequences tones from 200 Hz down to 20 Hz and Disc #2 does an articulation test from 20 Hz to 20 kHz .... there are a bunch other tracks too with bass and drum solos, jazz bands etc

I make a demo disc of about a half dozen tracks, crank the volume up and put my player on repeat - The test tones give your speakers a full range work out and the musical tracks provide a reference point to evaluate break in progress - It's kind of like uncorking a bottle of wine, letting it breathe and doing taste sips and seeing it open up ... except you fill your ears instead of a glass

The discs cost $8 to $12 (forget Amazon ... they want $25) - We can't post direct links but if you google Stereophile Test Discs look for #1 and #2

Hope that helps and please keep us undated on the break in progress

All2ears, thanks for the suggestion!