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Old 12-20-2014, 07:21 AM
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Is it really worth speculating about who worked (or explored) first, second or last in the amplifier? What satisfaction or frustration could one get from eventually knowing?
From the pictures it doesn't seem to be a botch job that was done as final intervention. That's not too bad.
What seems more important to me is, how does it play? Can you get happy with the musical result?
Satisfaction is never measurable on an objective value scale ;-)
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:06 AM
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Old 12-20-2014, 11:13 PM
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Simon,
why not ask Shindo Labs whether they have done the mod? It will change the value of this unit significantly.
And yes, some things of this mod indicates towards Shindo Labs, but I wonder why they have done this to one of their classics? Was it the order of a client to modify to newer standards like silicium voltage regulation like they do in their current models?
Whoever has done it, there was intentions behind it. To do such a massive makeover to a classic Shindo unit at least for me its not a good thing. When someone wants a modern Shindo unit, he can buy one easily.
Best, Hotz
Agreed on all points. Contacting Shindo would likely solve the mystery. Or perhaps the seller has some of the documentation. In any event, if I bought it I would be keen to answer the question.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:57 AM
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"Klang", "Hotzenplotz"... which new character will step out of the fog next in this piece ?
Or are thy just usual suspects operating under a new identity ?
... just a shining artifact of the past
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:38 AM
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I had a communication from Shindo Laboratory this morning indicating that his preamplifier was updated by them.

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Old 12-21-2014, 12:06 PM
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 12-21-2014, 12:11 PM
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Whoever it has done, it could have been done with a little more effort in the same style of the old classic Giscours using the now unused but still fine turrent lugs. Someone has been choosen to do it a quicker and easier way. Seems not to care too much about the old aesthetics...
Best, Hotz
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:06 PM
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"Klang", "Hotzenplotz"... which new character will step out of the fog next in this piece ?
Or are thy just usual suspects operating under a new identity ?
... just a shining artifact of the past
Said the person with his or her first post. Or was that irony? A chilly reception! I apologize, I do not intend to visit many locations on this forum as I am mainly interested in vintage audio. Also, I do no know Hotzenplotz, but I do respect his knowledge of vintage Shindo!
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:07 PM
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I had a communication from Shindo Laboratory this morning indicating that his preamplifier was updated by them.

Simon
Excellent! Congratulations on a unique piece of gear. Enjoy!
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:26 PM
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Thank you Klang. As I believe Ken Shindo was a perfectionist, I have no concerns regarding this preamplifier. It would not have left his hands in worse shape than the original. In a way, it is yet another manifestation of his melding of the old and the new.
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