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Old 11-18-2013, 03:33 PM
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Steve,
the Trifield Meter is very interesting. Have you used it before? Has the sound quality been mirrored by the meter readings previously? Would the readings change with break in time? Wonder how a smaller Shunyata like the cobra would compare. How many hours are on the Anaconda? Break in is a pain!
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Ray... I stand by my Trifield Electric Field readings. These cables appear to be unshielded & their radiation emissions are higher than any stock power chord, probably due to their higher gauge. Of course that is up to the manufacturer to dispute. YMMV in your own system but as Caelin clarified above, Shunyata cables are built for Shunyata systems. So those contemplating the Shunyata vision, should go Shunyata all the way or not at all as mix-n-matching or creating a "complex" power solution is not the way to go as I read into it.

Yes I have used the Trifield Meter before. I have an optioned up configuration. I think it is an indispensable tool to help get an indication of what is going on back there & also get a feel for what you are living with room by room in your household.

There are others here on AA that use & recommend the Trifield Meter too.

Perhaps a lessor Shunyata cable (if shielded) could be a better option. Perhaps, any other signal cable should be at least 200mm away from Shunyata Anacondas & those runs should be perpendicular for best results.

Perhaps more hours on the Anaconda would give a better indication. No doubt from what other have experienced, 500+hrs of break in seems to be the play. Too many perhaps-es.

Without any indication of immediate benefit, rather a negative performance impact sound wise since they were powered up, I am not prepared to risk a long break-in wait time or become "acclimatised" over time.

Break-in can be a b#tch but I have always started in a positive position, not a negative one.

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Old 11-18-2013, 08:34 PM
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Steve, did you by any chance made comparison of the ZAnaconda to your Ruby Mountain2? Are you currently using the 2 x RM2 on amps?
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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Yes absolutely. Yes on the amps. The Ruby Mountain IIs are evidently shielded. They are the deadest cable in my system, no electric field emissions according to the meter. I was actually quite surprised by this finding & was expecting something.

It has been good to have the opportunity to make these comparisons.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:59 PM
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Brief impressions soundwise?
I actually wanted to try Alpha Digital PCs for use on transport and dac. Called the local importer last week was told they are not in yet, and asked me to try a pair of ZAnaconda for amps instead..

Are you based in Sydney?
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I have lost that immersive crystal holographic soundstage & upper frequency sparkle. Qualities that were amplified with the Furutech Flux-50 inline power filters which now have been negated. I have even found that speaker positioning precision was not as critical with the Flux-50. That is no longer the case.

I'm not from Sydney.

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I have lost that immersive crystal holographic soundstage & upper frequency sparkle. Qualities that were amplified with the Furutech Flux-50 inline power filters which now have been negated. I have even found that speaker positioning precision was not as critical with the Flux-50. That is no longer the case.

I'm not from Sydney.

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Old 11-18-2013, 11:44 PM
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Ray... I stand by my Trifield Electric Field readings. These cables appear to be unshielded & their radiation emissions are higher than any stock power chord, probably due to their higher gauge. Of course that is up to the manufacturer to dispute. YMMV in your own system but as Caelin clarified above, Shunyata cables are built for Shunyata systems. So those contemplating the Shunyata vision, should go Shunyata all the way or not at all as mix-n-matching or creating a "complex" power solution is not the way to go as I read into it. Yes I have used the Trifield Meter before. I have an optioned up configuration. I think it is an indispensable tool to help get an indication of what is going on back there & also get a feel for what you are living with room by room in your household. There are others here on AA that use & recommend the Trifield Meter too. Perhaps a lessor Shunyata cable (if shielded) could be a better option. Perhaps for best results, any other signal cable should be at least 200mm away from Shunyata Anacondas & those runs should be perpendicular for best results. Perhaps more hours on the Anaconda would give a better indication. No doubt from what other have experienced, 500+hrs of break in seems to be the play. Too many perhaps-es. Without any indication of immediate benefit, rather a negative performance impact sound wise since they were powered up, I am not prepared to risk a long break-in wait time or become "acclimatised" over time. Break-in can be a b#tch but I have always started in a positive position, not a negative one.
Since you stand by your Tri-Field measurements and you claim to be proficient in its operation and it is optioned up then I would assume that you wouldn't mind sharing some information about your test methodology?

1) When you tested the Anaconda was it connected to the Hydra direct to the wall?
2) Did you have a Flux-50 connected inline with the Anaconda when testing or during listening sessions?
3) Were there power cables connected from the Hydra to several components?
4) Was the system on and pulling current during the test?
5) Do you know what the total current load was at the time of test?
6) What other cords did you measure?
7) Did you measure the other PCs when connected to the Hydra and wall or were they connected some other component (which one)?
8) Did you also test the magnetic field of each PC? If yes, what were the readings of each? If no, why not?
9) Do you hear any hum in your system?

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Old 11-19-2013, 12:01 AM
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Caelin....Rather than go through the yes/no's of the points above.

Let's simplify this to one yes or no.

As a consumer, am I well within my rights to return the goods for a full refund if I feel that they are not fit for my purpose as you have indicated above?

Given that I am in Australia, could you please co-ordinate this with your local distributor. Thank you.
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I have lost that immersive crystal holographic soundstage & upper frequency sparkle. Qualities that were amplified with the Furutech Flux-50 inline power filters which now have been negated. I have even found that speaker positioning precision was not as critical with the Flux-50. That is no longer the case.

I'm not from Sydney.
You know, I'm walking down this same road as I build my loom of Z-Tron PCs. Most recently I installed a pair of Pythons on my amps. I had this to share on the Z-Tron break-in in my most recent "Captain's Log" on the Shunyata PC Burn In thread:

But the main observation is that there was no true stereo image during break-in. There was sound coming out of one speaker and sound coming out of the other speaker but the two signals during break-in failed to resolve into a single coherent presentation. The past couple of days, the PCs "dropped," fell into place, and that issue has been resolved. So far, so good.

It seems to me that the PCs are not broken in yet. Then again, I'm not really following (I'm reading but not intellectually following) all this about test measurements. I don't know what radiation emission is and how or why that bothers the sound. But anyhow, as far as break-in is concerned, I'm not doing cartwheels over that process either. But the PCs will break-in. I've heard that for myself. Just sayin'.

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