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Old 01-17-2014, 12:49 AM
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inline passive electronics: Shunyata claim that their "ΞTRON electric field compensation circuit allows the signal's electric field to be imposed upon the shield, while at the same time limiting current flow and ddy currents within the shield." Conventional cable: Does not have an electronic circuit at the terminations to influence or alter the electrical conduction or signal flow. A proprietary cable/network: designed for a vendor specific application or system may exhibit unpredictable performance characteristics when used outside of that context. eg. proximity radius to electronics may alter system performance, the use of EMI/RF power filters in series may conflict with the design of the proprietary cable/network. This is a very contentious topic where eternal passion flies in faith of the pseudo science much like the skin care industry.
The only thing contentious are those that engage in being contentiousness motivated by vindictive malice.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:07 AM
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The only thing contentious are those that engage in being contentiousness motivated by vindictive malice.
Caelin... No worries, as this behavior will not be tolerated here.
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Old 01-17-2014, 02:59 AM
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When I purchased the Cobras I felt confident that I made the right move as many reported very good results with the Ztron compared to the older CX but after my first listening, I am not convinced. I can even see the difference on the VU meters of my MC252, listening to some albums I know very well. Again, I know I will have to properly burn in the cables before drawing any conclusion.

Why is this a leap of faith to change to inline passive electronics (and what is that actually?)? How much of a difference it is from conventional cables? Sorry to ask so many questions.

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I wouldn't worry about the post that led to your questions. It selectively applied a quote about signal cable technology to your concern about your new power cords.

Yours is not the first report I've read of hearing the Cobra PC as you described. And you're right about giving them time to acclimate and burn-in. How many hours do they have on them? Are you using them on amps or front-end gear?

From my own experience with the Zitron Cobra it won't surprise me to hear about sound described as clearer, more neutral and more articulate but with more harmonic information, all of which I gauge to mean having less distortion. I found the Cobra a real improvement over all but the topmost of the CX series all of which are a bit warmer and comparatively a teeny bit muddier and slower. To my ears warmth is usually a masking of information, but this can be a matter of degree. Whether you find that to your liking is happily your choice. Every system is different. Give 'em another week of steady use or on a dedicated burn-in.
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Old 01-17-2014, 02:17 PM
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The only thing contentious are those that engage in being contentiousness motivated by vindictive malice.

LOL. Contentiously contentious. Sounds like past performance reviews I have had, but that is just my personality. No need for me to be motivated by vindictive malice.

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Old 01-17-2014, 11:56 PM
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When I purchased my first ZCobra I first attached it to my Mac C2300. No real change noticed and I put the ZCobra where I had intended, the Benchmark DAC. Then the Alpha Digital arrived and that went on the DAC and the ZCobra to the disc player. After several weeks of break in by just running my system, I had to see what the ZCobra would be like back on the pre-amp. Good news was that all the ZCobra benefits showed up on the pre-amp and the bad news is I need a second Alpha Digital as I won't give up the benefits to the pre-amp.

So have patience and it will be rewarded, or said otherwise, just let the hand play. If two Cobras don't beat a pair of black mambas the pc rules have really changed.

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I wouldn't worry about the post that led to your questions. It selectively applied a quote about signal cable technology to your concern about your new power cords.

Yours is not the first report I've read of hearing the Cobra PC as you described. And you're right about giving them time to acclimate and burn-in. How many hours do they have on them? Are you using them on amps or front-end gear?

From my own experience with the Zitron Cobra it won't surprise me to hear about sound described as clearer, more neutral and more articulate but with more harmonic information, all of which I gauge to mean having less distortion. I found the Cobra a real improvement over all but the topmost of the CX series all of which are a bit warmer and comparatively a teeny bit muddier and slower. To my ears warmth is usually a masking of information, but this can be a matter of degree. Whether you find that to your liking is happily your choice. Every system is different. Give 'em another week of steady use or on a dedicated burn-in.
Thanks for your input. Both Cobras are brand new out of the box. I am using them on my MCD301 CDP and C46 pre-amp. In the meantime I upgrade, I still use my Python CX on my MC252 amplifier. Despite my first impression when I plugged them in, I immediately noticed an increase in clarity and details. I am not patient enough to wait 400-500 hours as many reported so I will properly burn them in as Caelin described in other posts. Given the fact that I listen to my system for about 20 hours per week would take too long for me to get what I want.
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So have patience and it will be rewarded, or said otherwise, just let the hand play. If two Cobras don't beat a pair of black mambas the pc rules have really changed.

Jeff
That was my reasoning when I finally jumped for the ZTron Cobras I just can't wait for them to be fully burned in.
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