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Old 01-12-2018, 12:15 AM
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Been thinking about trying a set of XLR adapters. These would be for my TT so RCA's on that end and XLR at the Luxman integrated, which would allow me to use a "balanced" input. Any real advantage here or just a waste of $$?
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Been thinking about trying a set of XLR adapters. These would be for my TT so RCA's on that end and XLR at the Luxman integrated, which would allow me to use a "balanced" input. Any real advantage here or just a waste of $$?
Waste of money -- you can't get a balanced signal from 2 wires.

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Your Luxman has phono stage input that uses XLR connections?
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Your Luxman has phono stage input that uses XLR connections?
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I did exactly that for a while. My phono preamp was not balanced but I wanted to use balanced cables into my preamp. I used a pair of Canare XLR to RCA converters and it worked just fine. The reason I did this was because I knew I was going to upgrade my phono preamp in the near future. A pair of converters was much cheaper than a pair of interconnects.
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Unless your preamp or integrated amp has an XLR input specifically for “PHONO” input, you’ll be feeding the turntable’s low level output to a Line Level input, thereby bypassing the internal RIAA EQ filter. This will adversely affect the sound of vinyl. No?

Also, the turntable is outputting a very small signal, which the internal phono stage amplifies. I would think there will be a large mismatch in volume if using the line input rather than the phono input.

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Waste of money -- you can't get a balanced signal from 2 wires.

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D'Agostino supplies some pretty nice single ended to XLR adaptors with his Momentum amps. I ended up using them on the connection from my E-03 to met pre-amp. If I want to go all balanced I would have to move up to the e-04.
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It D'Agostino supplies some pretty nice single ended to XLR adaptors with his Momentum amps. I ended up using them on the connection from my E-03 to met pre-amp. If I want to go all balanced I would have to move up to the e-04.
Roger Jim -- SE to XLR adapters is one thing, Phono SE to XLR adapters for it to be a "balanced" input is another.

At least that's how I interpreted the OP.

Phono stages I have seen, if they offer XLR connectors, they also offer SE. In the OP's case, what would be gained by adding an XLR connector to the equipment SE side -- nothing. Thus my response.

BTW, you must mean the E-02.

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Digital Source: dCS Paganini 4 stack (Transport/DAC/Clock/Upsampler).
Analogue Preamp: VAC Renaissance SE Phono stage with XLR Output Option & with Nordost Tyr 2 P/C and Tyr 2 XLR's.
Analogue Sources: SME 20/2 w/SME V arm & Nordost Valhalla TA cable, Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences. Akai RC-17 cabled remote.
Vibration Control: TT on HRS M3X 1921 shelf, Stillpoint Ultra SS under dCS Transport, Stillpoint Ultra-Mini's under dCS 3 Stack. HRS NA100's under Ansuz D8 Power Distribution Bar.
Speakers: Wilson Audio Alexia in Argento Silver/Black grills.
Power Cables: 3 each 2.5M Nordost Odin Supreme Reference on amps & preamp. Nordost Valhalla V1 on dCS Transport.
Power Distribution Bar: Ansuz Mainz Diamond 8(D8) fed by Ansuz Diamond Power Cable.
Power Outlets:Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) duplex outlet, GTX Wall Plate & Duplex Cover (x2).
Speaker Cables: 3M Nordost Odin Supreme Reference with 4 Nordost Sort Lifts.
Signal Cables: Nordost Tyr 2 XLR's 2M on dCS Paganini and Mono amps. Nordost Valhalla 2's 110 ohm Digital AES/EBU on dCS internal connections and Crystal Cable Firewire 1394 cables on dCS.
Clock Cables: 3 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital
Headphones: Selling - 6M Cardas Clear HP cables. Vintage Koss Pro IV AA.
RCM: Audio Desk PRO
Tube Test Gear: Mint late '60's/calibrated Heathkit TT-1A & current SOTA MaxiMatcher Power and Preamp tube test sets.

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Roger Jim -- SE to XLR adapters is one thing, Phono SE to XLR adapters for it to be a "balanced" input is another.

At least that's how I interpreted the OP.

Phono stages I have seen, if they offer XLR connectors, they also offer SE. In the OP's case, what would be gained by adding an XLR connector to the equipment SE side -- nothing. Thus my response.

BTW, you must mean the E-02.

Best Sir,

Bob
Well at least I was within two numbers.
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