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Old 05-01-2010, 01:38 PM
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I bought my Sophia II's used, but even so I have to keep telling myself that they are just as delightful as I thought they were the minute before I learned the Sophia III's exist.
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Old 05-01-2010, 03:57 PM
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Thats good to know... I wonder what Wilson would do with all of those used II's???

That shows excellent customer relations.



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Stephen...according to Peter McGrath of Wilson Audio (whom I met at a recent demo of the Sashas and the Sophia 2s at a local dealer a month or so ago), he actually said the Sophia 3s were coming and that they were letting the Sophia 2s go for $13,700 (down from $16,500) and that anyone who bought the Sophia 2s at this new reduced price could exchange their speakers for the Sophia 3s and just pay the difference in retail. So while there is no upgrade path, there is an exchange path if you recently bought the Sophia 2s.
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Old 05-01-2010, 04:39 PM
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I kind of regret I got the Sashas now - Audio Note Ongaku would love the Sophia 3 ! (1,8 Ohm impedance dip of the Sasha is just too much for this tiny 27wpc SET)

Oh well.
If it wasn't for the fact that I owned a pair of Sophia IIs and then a pair of Sasha back to back, I would say it is much easier to find another amp than it is to match the qualities of Sasha with another brand speaker. While that is still true when it comes to the "other brands" IMHO, the Sophia II is a phenomenal speaker for the money and I am sure the Sophia III will be an even better speaker yet. Yes, for many the Sophia III will be more than enough of a speaker without having to spend another $10k for Sasha but you already own the Sasha, now simply do them justice in the form of an amp that can handle them well.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:49 AM
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The problem is, it is difficoult to find an amp that will match Ongaku qualities.

Ongaku + Sophia II was simply magic happening in my room, and I have all reasons to belive Sophia 3 would be even more so.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:59 AM
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see my comment above I actually agree with Serge. If you think the Sasha is the better speaker than that's the keeper and find the amp that does it justice. Maybe you just need to get the Sophia 3 to match up with the Ongaku in a second system
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:51 PM
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see my comment above I actually agree with Serge. If you think the Sasha is the better speaker than that's the keeper and find the amp that does it justice. Maybe you just need to get the Sophia 3 to match up with the Ongaku in a second system
I also agree with Serge and cmalak. I do understand the connection you have with your amp. Trust me, I have a MC275 which I would LOVE to have hooked up with my W/P's, however that is just not going to be the case. There are so many wonderfully sounding amps that you can pair with the Sasha's! That is part of the fun is to go out and find an amp that will make them sound magical as your other ones did with your Sophia's.
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:39 PM
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The problem is, I'm already running out of amps to try (already had the Lamm M1.2R - sold them only after 3 months), LOL.

IMO certain SET qualities just cannot be duplicated by a SS amp.

I have no doubt that Sasha is a better speaker. The problem is, you have to drive it with an inferior (SS) amp. So the solution would be either downgrade to the Sophia 3, or jump straight to Maxx 3/X-2 teritory. X-2 driven by Lamm ML-3 - naw THAT would be a killer combo ...
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:48 PM
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The problem is, I'm already running out of amps to try (already had the Lamm M1.2R - sold them only after 3 months), LOL.

IMO certain SET qualities just cannot be duplicated by a SS amp.

I have no doubt that Sasha is a better speaker. The problem is, you have to drive it with an inferior (SS) amp. So the solution would be either downgrade to the Sophia 3, or jump straight to Maxx 3/X-2 teritory. X-2 driven by Lamm ML-3 - naw THAT would be a killer combo ...
Elberoth...I take my comment back then. Human progress is a function of always marching forward never backward. So Maxx 3s it is.
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The problem is, I'm already running out of amps to try (already had the Lamm M1.2R - sold them only after 3 months), LOL.

IMO certain SET qualities just cannot be duplicated by a SS amp.

I have no doubt that Sasha is a better speaker. The problem is, you have to drive it with an inferior (SS) amp. So the solution would be either downgrade to the Sophia 3, or jump straight to Maxx 3/X-2 teritory. X-2 driven by Lamm ML-3 - naw THAT would be a killer combo ...
IMHO, if you really want to experience the true potential of any low wattage tube amp, especially SET, get yourself 98-102dB efficient speaker that has 8 or greater nominal impedance and is truly tube friendly. At least you will give an amp that is already limited in ultimate linear bandwidth a fighting chance to show you what it can do. Yes, many drive the Alexandria and Maxx 3s with Lamm tube amps but I am not convinced it would be a truly universal approach that would allow you to enjoy any type of music to maximum potential.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:38 AM
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I have been reading a lot about the synergy of amps with wilson speakers I know this is a huge personal thing and I don't mean to start a debate at all but what about Wilson SophiaIII with a Mcintosh amp I don't hear a lot of people talking about Mcintosh w/ Wilson? Just Curious
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