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Stephen, i appreciate you are focused on the second leg of an Ethernet Connection. The short route from your fiber receiver to your PC/Streamer.
From all your investigations with Ethernet cables, what do you think is the best (value for money and SQ) for the long first leg? Eg an 8 meter long run? Craig
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Good question. Maybe the Supra Cat8? I'm using a run of fiber for this long run; its much cheaper and it sounds better than a long run of Ethernet.
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Should work well there.
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Thank you, Puma Cat for confirming I chose well with Supra Cat8! I went with Supra as I had many years of great sound using their speaker cable bought directly from the late Tommy Jenving, the owner of the company at the time.
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Quick question on Ethernet cables. Where do you upgrade the cable for the biggest impact? Wall (router) to switch, switch to streamer, or both?
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Depends on your setup and budget: Simplest answer; HiFi; Switch to Streamer Whole house; modem to router / switch. Goal; There’s many ways to do this, and you really can move the system performance needle when you go from start point to finish or finish to start point. Switches, optical filters or boxes, power supplies really change the game. If you dig around there’s a lot of recent postings. |
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Recently I had the opportunity to audition 3 ethernet cables on my Aurender A10 streamer-Dac combo(Tidal) as well as Apple TV (Youtube Prime). There was this run of the mill Belkin Cat 6 cable, AudioQuest Cinnamon and Audioquest Vodka.
To my ears and my friends, higher end Vodka sounded mellow, better instrument separation, more details etc.. Basically, very pleasant to listen to. Both being in IT field this was not possible or not explainable logically. So, we asked my wife to listen to these cables. She preferred higher end Vodka every time. So, there were now 3 people who preferred the sound of the higher end Vodka. All 3 of us went thru blind testing. We took this experiment further – we disconnected the cable couple of seconds after the song started playing – it just played rest of the song from the buffer. Plugging in inferior cable during this time did not make a difference. So, it appears the “better” cable downloads a superior or “better sounding bits”! This I can not explain. Just relaying what we heard. What also was puzzling was that we got mixed results if we did not power off the Aurender A10 before trying another cable. It seems Tidal just “patches” up whatever was in the buffer. (In this case we were playing the same song). We also found it was best to power off the Aurender before switching to another cable. Same was evident with Apple TV using YouTube Prime. Both seems to have large buffer. We can not explain how a last 6 feet of digital cable makes a difference – but hey, we heard it! I would imagine we would have got similar results from any manufacturer's higher end cable. Yogi.
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Hi Banter,
The reasons that we can hear differences in Ethernet cables is not with respect to their abilit to deliver signal, its their ability to deal with all the different types and classes of noise that gets layered on top of the signal. More on that later in a separate reply to this thread, so stay tuned. Regarding the AQ Vodka, your experiences were very similar to mine.
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