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Old 08-25-2018, 11:27 AM
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If you don't need all this just use your iphone as the best camera you have is the one you with you.
for candid 'grab it' shots perhaps but if you're shooting action not very good IMO. Any camera with shutter lag is useless IMO. For the record i have an Android, perhaps the Apple is different. Regardless, with rather large hands either is not as comfortable as a real camera
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Old 08-25-2018, 12:48 PM
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I am a real camera nut . . . and I've tried many different mirrorless cameras, from most of the current top brands.

In the past, I used and loved Leica, Canon and Nikon SLRs and DSLRs, but 5 or 6 years ago, switched to mirrorless, mostly for the compact size and for image quality equivalent to the BIGGER cameras.

The mirrorless cameras I seem to have recently gravitated to, all seem to have one feature in common that, as an older (but not quite elderly) person, find that I need. . . . In Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) . . . Old hands do shake!!!!

The lens based image stabilization offered by Fuji (Canon and Nikon too), the earlier Sony cameras, and others, just didn't seem to do it for me . . And, most of the prime lenses for those systems and some of the zooms, didn't have image stabilization at all - so, for me, the result was, quite often, fuzzy pictures. I did own Fuji X-E2, X-E3, X-T1, X-T2 and X-Pro2 cameras, and "brought home" a X-H1 for trial and examination.

Fuji now has an in body, image stabilized (IBIS) system camera, the X-H1, but the camera body is huge . . the size of most mid range DSLRs (Nikon and Canon) - perhaps defeating the purpose of mirrorless. And, the upcoming replacements for existing Fuji cameras apparently do not have IBIS.

I also tried the Sony A-6000, A-6300 (my wife uses this) and an A-6500, which does have in body stabilization. (Still have this) - but don't feel that the IBIS is as good as the Olympus system.

Sony does have superb in body image stabilization in its recent A "7" and "9" series, full frame cameras, but, for those cameras, the lenses are mammoth. I recently tried the A7 III camera and three of its "EF" lenses . . but the resulting "kit" was much too large for me to comfortably travel with.

So, what do I (or did I) do?

Last November, I purchased my first Micro 4/3rd camera. An Olympus E-M1 Mark II. An extraordinary camera. Superb image quality, Extremely rugged body (probably the best in the business). Not tiny, but small nevertheless. And, a superlative line-up of lenses - from Olympus, Panasonic and other manufacturers.

Olympus and Panasonic lenses are completely interchangeable. I have lenses from both brands and use them on my Olympus bodies. And, the lenses are, for the most part, much smaller than those used by other mirrorless camera systems and DSLRs. The image quality of these micro 4/3 lenses is also extremely, extremely excellent.

Olympus pioneered in body image stabilization and remains the leader in this modality, and Panasonic was the pioneer in mirrorless cameras (The first to offer a mirrorless camera - 10 years ago -) And, cameras from either manufacturer and lenses from both are astonishingly good.

So I now have the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, OM-D-E-M5 Mark II, and Olympus Pen F cameras, as well as the Sony A-6500, and I am quite happy.

And, almost all of my photographs are shake-free, and, if I can overlook all the other faults in my pictures, the Olympus cameras with IBIS have made me a truly great photographer of the worlds most amateurish looking snapshots. Every thing the camera does is great, everything the photographer does is pretty lousy.
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Old 08-25-2018, 12:51 PM
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good synopsis Julian, thanks !
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Excellent, Julian! I think very relevant for me. Thanks for posting.
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I have a good friend // excellent photog who ended up with Olympus 4/3 kit for similar, but not the same reasons. Fantastic alternative.
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Dave - what did you decide?
I spent some time in the camera section of a Best Buy this a.m. (first one I've been in for several years) and handled most all the mirrorless cameras that I've given some thought to. However, all are too large/bulky and, especially, heavy, for my needs (putting in my pocket for walking around while traveling). Settled on the Sony DSC-HX80 with Zeiss lens. Does everything I need.

Forgot to mention that I strolled into the Magnolia theatre (audio) section in the back corner of the BB and there were no sales-people around and it was dimly lit. They had a rack of Pioneer, Denon & Yamaha home-theatre gear, but all the other individual components were locked up in individual "boxes". Was not possible to see into them or open them to see what they might have. Based on the size of the 'boxes', am guessing they have no McIntosh gear other than, possibly, the smaller (no auto-former) integrated amps. Did have a couple of pairs of the smaller ML speakers, but no high-end B&W.
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Glenn, I haven't pulled the trigger yet. While I like the Canon M50 I also like the little EOS M100. I may head down to Delaware this coming week and check out your choice
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Well........... while the M100 is considerably smaller than the M50 and likely the smallest of the mirrorless herd, it is still about twice the size of the Sony HX80. And, it has that 'huge' (a relative term) lens stuck on the front, making it impossible to slip easily into & out of a front pants pocket.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:42 AM
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Well........... while the M100 is considerably smaller than the M50 and likely the smallest of the mirrorless herd, it is still about twice the size of the Sony HX80. And, it has that 'huge' (a relative term) lens stuck on the front, making it impossible to slip easily into & out of a front pants pocket.
wow, the Sony is that small ?? no thanks, I want nothing smaller than the M100. Not worried about stuffing in my pocket.
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:28 AM
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Canon is introducing a new mirrorless full frame camera.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...s_digital.html
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