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SUBWoofer Upgrade: Stereo REL G2 vs JLA Fathom f113v2
Hi everyone,
I have been a happy REL user for the last 3 years but had to repair my Rel 3 times over the last 4 years. I also feel i can use a stereo configuration given my tri-amped setup. I narrowed down my sub upgrade to: Option A: Adding another Rel G2(found a slightly used one with a new driver) Option B: Going with 2 JLA Fathom F113v2 or F112v2 My room dimensions are 17Lx15Wx11H Setup: Speakers: B&W 802D Pre: C2500/MX122 CrossOver: MEN 220 Amps: 275 mk IV x 2 + MC205 for low and rears I will be most grateful for your recommendations / experience. |
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I would suggest selling the oft repaired G2 and either go with a pair of REL 212SE or either pair of JL Fathom.
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C, McIntosh MX180 Amp: McIntosh MC611 (2), MC601 (3), MI254 Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N20, Aurender ACS10, Oppo 203 Analog: McIntosh MT10, Hana Umami Red Phono preamp: Simaudio Moon 610LP, 820S Signal cables: WW Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Shunyata Sigma v2 XLR (2); Sigma v1 XLR (2), Transparent Ref XL (MM2) XLR; WW Silver Eclipse 7 (4) Digital cables: Shunyata Omega USB, Omega Ethernet, Sigma Ethernet; WW Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU Switch: Innuos PhoenixNet Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Dragon, Hurricane PC, Shunyata Alpha HC, AQ NRG Edison outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel Speakers: Wilson Sasha DAW, Dynaudio Contour 30, Dynaudio Contour 25C Subs: REL s/812 (6), REL s/510 (3) Accessories: HRS M3X2 shelf (MT10), Stillpoints Ultra II v2 w/ bases (21), Ultra SS (12), Mini (12), LPi v1 Sound treaments: Artnovion |
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Thanks I was told that the 212SE May be too big - anyone heard REL S/5 - a pair of them may also be considered. |
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It is my opinion that people, in general, are afraid of overloading a room with bass which scares them away from big subs. I understand why. But there is a gain knob. I know that compared to the pair of REL B2 I owned, the JL Audio f110v2 absolutely mopped the floor with REL with respect to sheer output. A pair of f112 and certainly f113 will be on par with REL212 for sheer output. The JL subs are monsters, in a good way.
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C, McIntosh MX180 Amp: McIntosh MC611 (2), MC601 (3), MI254 Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N20, Aurender ACS10, Oppo 203 Analog: McIntosh MT10, Hana Umami Red Phono preamp: Simaudio Moon 610LP, 820S Signal cables: WW Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Shunyata Sigma v2 XLR (2); Sigma v1 XLR (2), Transparent Ref XL (MM2) XLR; WW Silver Eclipse 7 (4) Digital cables: Shunyata Omega USB, Omega Ethernet, Sigma Ethernet; WW Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU Switch: Innuos PhoenixNet Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Dragon, Hurricane PC, Shunyata Alpha HC, AQ NRG Edison outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel Speakers: Wilson Sasha DAW, Dynaudio Contour 30, Dynaudio Contour 25C Subs: REL s/812 (6), REL s/510 (3) Accessories: HRS M3X2 shelf (MT10), Stillpoints Ultra II v2 w/ bases (21), Ultra SS (12), Mini (12), LPi v1 Sound treaments: Artnovion |
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FWIW, my room is a little bigger than yours, 22 x 15 1/2 x 10. John Hunter, owner of REL, recommended a pair 212SE for a combination hi end 2 channel and multichannel AV setup.
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C, McIntosh MX180 Amp: McIntosh MC611 (2), MC601 (3), MI254 Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N20, Aurender ACS10, Oppo 203 Analog: McIntosh MT10, Hana Umami Red Phono preamp: Simaudio Moon 610LP, 820S Signal cables: WW Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Shunyata Sigma v2 XLR (2); Sigma v1 XLR (2), Transparent Ref XL (MM2) XLR; WW Silver Eclipse 7 (4) Digital cables: Shunyata Omega USB, Omega Ethernet, Sigma Ethernet; WW Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU Switch: Innuos PhoenixNet Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Dragon, Hurricane PC, Shunyata Alpha HC, AQ NRG Edison outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel Speakers: Wilson Sasha DAW, Dynaudio Contour 30, Dynaudio Contour 25C Subs: REL s/812 (6), REL s/510 (3) Accessories: HRS M3X2 shelf (MT10), Stillpoints Ultra II v2 w/ bases (21), Ultra SS (12), Mini (12), LPi v1 Sound treaments: Artnovion |
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I would stick with the F113's for sure... I have a total of 5 of them throughout the house and are a good fit for the size room you are using.
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thank you for sharing your experience... do you have them on all the time or signal sensing?
Last edited by kbehnia; 07-13-2019 at 08:40 PM. |
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I used to have them "off" by default, then would walk over and turn them "on" when I wanted to use them. Having said this, I have since switched them over to signal sensing and they all work perfectly in that config (and its way more convenient).
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I use two f112s and a cr-1 and have all the bass I could ever want in a pretty big room.
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So I just got my 2 JLA fathom f113v2s - I want to get the best connection and it seems the best may be going from the men 220 lows into a left and right balance into the fathoms? That way I can get both HT and 2 channel.
Anyone see a problem with this? |
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