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VT Skier I share your views on SF, Magico and Dynaudio speakers. Your experiences seem to mirror mine.
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And the Sashas are the only Wilsons I've ever heard that I really liked, for whatever that's worth.
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The interesting discussion for me is how we acquire those biases and whether they tend to be rooted in what we like and hence changing over time and discovery of new components or whether they are grounded in some constant(s) that don't really change but keep the path consistent in it's direction even as components change. Synergy supports the former. It does not support the latter. Could be a very cool thread my friend. Now back to the Magico's to whom this thread belongs. Last edited by metaphacts; 06-30-2012 at 07:21 PM. |
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I agree, but that's like saying our (or any) country would be well served if politicians who disagree could still talk to each other respectively to reach compromise solutions. But rather than serving the country, or even their constituents, what they most care about is getting reelected (what they like) so they do what they feel will bring about that result.
Honestly, I even felt funny about writing up my experience at Ears Nova. I think I'm a pretty discerning, even demanding, listener, but I really only know what I like. I loved the Q3s with the Constellaton and dCS. But was it the speakers? The electronics? The room? The songs Joshua chose because he knew they would best show off the speakers? I loved your Strads in Montreal, but that was also the first time I'd heard them playing vinyl. So was that it? Your expertise? The speakers? The other gear? Or was it the fact that they sounded so much better than the Futuras and I was being a relativist? And what if I had said I had heard the Futuras twice at shows and they weren't very good (which was true) so the speaker must not be very good (which would have been false). If I hadn't tried again with Dany, I never would have known. I'm amazed when people write about going to a show and deciding a certain amp was bad (or good) or a set of speakers or a CD player, as they quickly walk from one room to the next with every single variable changing as soon as they exit. It's a crazy hobby filled with crazy people. But I'm sure you know that better than I. |
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"I loved your Strads in Montreal, but that was also the first time I'd heard them playing vinyl. So was that it? Your expertise? The speakers? The other gear? Or was it the fact that they sounded so much better than the Futuras and I was being a relativist? And what if I had said I had heard the Futuras twice at shows and they weren't very good (which was true) so the speaker must not be very good (which would have been false). If I hadn't tried again with Dany, I never would have known."
I had exactly the same response. In terms of bias, I "wanted" to like the futuras at the Montreal show last year but despite going several times to the room, was not feeling the love. The Strads on the other hand were fabulous and I'm also uncertain what it was about that setup - likely combination of the system, the setup, and the Fidelio vinyl that impressed me. "I'm amazed when people write about going to a show and deciding a certain amp was bad (or good) or a set of speakers or a CD player, as they quickly walk from one room to the next with every single variable changing as soon as they exit." Agree completely. It is such a crapshoot due to so many factors which is why I try not to dismiss anything not sounding good at a show but do come away with what does sound good (to me) in the top of my mind. This is why I feel confident that the Futuras sound incredible with the right system and setup. At this point in my listening, I'm finding that the room and positioning of speakers and furniture are making the biggest difference. |
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I personally would be much more interested in hearing the Magicos with Burmester, Pass Labs, C-J, EAR, or even DarTZeel.
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Hi FF, If you are whom I think you are-I'd avoid Magicos--I've heard them enough times to know they
just don't involve-- As for comparison to the Rockports-- the Rockies by country mile! Hope you're well Des W |
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